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Date: 12/20/18 17:52
Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: mundo

=18ptFrom a Amtrak News Release Dec 20

Bennet Announces $9 Million for Safety Improvements Along Southwest Chief Rail Line
=12pt =12ptWashington, D.C.=12pt – Colorado U.S. Senator Michael Bennet today announced $9.16 million in federal funding to install Positive Train Control (PTC) along the Southwest Chief rail line between Dodge City, Kansas, and Las Animas, Colorado. The funding was awarded through the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Consolidated Rail Infrastructure and Safety Improvements Grant Program. The Colorado Department of Transportation (CDOT) applied for the grant with the Kansas Department of Transportation, local governments in Colorado and Kansas, and Amtrak. =12pt 



Date: 12/20/18 18:38
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: SP4360

1 piece of the puzzle.



Date: 12/20/18 18:50
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: P

What a colossal waste of money. The good news is that it may keep the SW Chief running. The bad news - besides the waste of money- is this reinforces the notion that this system is necessary to operate passenger trains. It makes it more difficult to maintain other routes without PTC and even more hard to add service to a new route- as unlikely as that seems at this moment.

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Date: 12/20/18 18:55
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: joemvcnj

Was this portion of line exempt from FRA requirement ?

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Date: 12/20/18 19:05
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: andersonb109

Why is this needed on a line that carries two trains per day? Whens the last time No's 3 and 4 crashed into each other? Put the money towards border security instead. 



Date: 12/20/18 19:40
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: royalgorge

Curently BNSF has PTC in operation from Las Animas Junction to La Junta,  The section that funding is being provide for is east of Las Animas and sees daily freight trains, locals, grain trains, wind energy equipement movemnts as well as unit coal trains and the two Amtrak trains.  



Date: 12/20/18 19:50
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: SCAX3401

P Wrote:
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> What a colossal waste of money.

$9.16 million?

It may or may not be a waste of money, but a "colossal" waste?  This is the US Government we are talking about.  $9.1 million is a rounding error, the feds have made much, much bigger wastes than this.  If it turns out to be a waste, it will be a tiny one in the grand scheme of things unfortunately.



Date: 12/20/18 20:01
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: MirandaDepot

In the Federal scheme of things. $9.1 million is a “drop in the bucket.” To me it might be colossal, but it’s a funding level for a very minor project. A million...or ten million...just doesn’t go very far, unfortunately. This is a project, not even anything that might be called a program. 

We should just just move ahead with these things. Argue over the big stuff, er, programs. 



Date: 12/20/18 21:05
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: PHall

BNSF is putting in PTC on a number of routes that were exempt. They seem to think it's a good enough idea to spend money on it.



Date: 12/21/18 00:45
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: BigSkyBlue

andersonb109 Wrote:
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> Why is this needed on a line that carries two
> trains per day?

BNSF is quite happy to have you continue to believe this.
There is considerable freight traffic east of La Junta and BNSF has been able to leverage the TIGER funds for the SWC for their own traffic. BSB

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Date: 12/21/18 05:19
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: mp51w

I wonder if this will improve the signal reliability?  Signal trouble delays are very frequent on this segment for the Southwest Chief.
Also, they will gain a few minutes at Dodge City, because the PTC is already engaged.



Date: 12/21/18 20:20
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: ATSF1129

mp51w Wrote:
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> Also, they will gain a few minutes at Dodge City,
> because the PTC is already engaged.

Not really... When the outbound LAJ engineer signs out, all the route data stored is deleted and will have to be "repopulated" (don't know the actual term) by the new outbound crew.



Date: 12/25/18 21:11
Re: Money obtained for PTC Dodge City KS to Las Animas CO
Author: ProAmtrak

It's 90 MPH Track (ATS) but it sucks they will never attain that speed again!



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