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Date: 02/11/20 09:48
First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: zorz

https://skagwaynews.com/2020/02/10/wpyr-spends-millions-on-larger-more-efficient-locomotives/

Almost exactly the same as the NRE units for QUBE in Australia. I am curious how they'll do on 3ft track with those tight curves.



Date: 02/11/20 10:37
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: BoilingMan

Shades of the old UPRR "verandas".  (This may require a certain amount of squinting)
SR



Date: 02/11/20 10:55
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: i64west

Any guesses as to the route these will take west? 



Date: 02/11/20 11:00
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: pdt

At least they are unique.  Not -9's in narrow gauge trucks...



Date: 02/11/20 11:21
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: bgiaquin

i64west Wrote:
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> Any guesses as to the route these will take
> west? 
They will going to a barge in Seattle, so I'd guess they will go north through the twin cities and then BNSF Northern Transcon



Date: 02/11/20 11:28
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: zorz

pdt Wrote:
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> At least they are unique.  Not -9's in narrow
> gauge trucks...

Well, the -9's on BB bogies are still pretty unique outside of Brazil ;)

In all seriousness, I do find it interesting that these units seem to be using the pilot mounted horn as well. Makes me wonder about how connected the procurement team has been with the realities of operating the WP&Y, even in the summer, or if this pic is not one of the new units but an original unit for QUBE.



Date: 02/11/20 12:01
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: mbrotzman

WP&Y is making the same mistake that the Mount Washington Cog Railway did, the old locomotives provite most of the charm.  Would you take a selfie in front of that?



Date: 02/11/20 12:09
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: HotWater

mbrotzman Wrote:
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> WP&Y is making the same mistake that the Mount
> Washington Cog Railway did, the old locomotives
> provite most of the charm.  Would you take a
> selfie in front of that?

You can't be serious!  The vast majority of all the passengers from all the giant cruise ships, that ride the WP&Y are clueless about what is pulling the train/trains, except of course for the steam locomotives.



Date: 02/11/20 12:25
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: SvenMolson

Exactly...having ridden the White Pass more than 50 times over the years, the passengers constantly complain about the smoke & noise.  Unfortunately, the new owners are turning this once great historic railroad into a glorified Disney ride.  Photo from Skagway news.

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/20 12:26 by SvenMolson.




Date: 02/11/20 12:30
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: rbenko

Boy, aesthetics are just completely out of the equation in modern locomotive building - that thing is butt-ugly!!



Date: 02/11/20 12:31
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: JohnM

SvenMolson Wrote:
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> Exactly...having ridden the White Pass more than
> 50 times over the years, the passengers constantly
> complain about the smoke & noise.  Unfortunately,
> the new owners are turning this once great
> historic railroad into a glorified Disney ride. 
> Photo from Skagway news.
>
>  

Sven, what would you recommend?



Date: 02/11/20 13:05
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: PHall

mbrotzman Wrote:
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> WP&Y is making the same mistake that the Mount
> Washington Cog Railway did, the old locomotives
> provite most of the charm.  Would you take a
> selfie in front of that?

The cruise ship passengers who ride the trains today couldn't care less what the locomotives look like.



Date: 02/11/20 13:06
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: PE-717

“If it all holds, the first one should be on the ground in Skagway the first of March,” Not a good choice of words. Too funny

Posted from iPhone



Date: 02/11/20 13:23
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: BoilingMan

PE-717 Wrote:
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> “If it all holds, the first one should be on the
> ground in Skagway the first of March,” Not a
> good choice of words. Too funny
>
> Posted from iPhone

Aye.
Best stick with the nautical-

“On The Hard”

SR



Date: 02/11/20 13:25
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: Duna

mbrotzman Wrote:
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> WP&Y is making the same mistake that the Mount
> Washington Cog Railway did, the old locomotives
> provite most of the charm.  Would you take a
> selfie in front of that?


Have you written the railroad and told them they are "doing it all wrong"?



Date: 02/11/20 13:41
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: GP25

The Skykomish Virtual Railfan Camera will have a good look at them. If they pass during the daylight hours

Jerry Martin
Los Angeles, CA
Central Coast Railroad Festival



Date: 02/11/20 13:58
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: Cumbresfan

Any pictures of the Durango and Silverton diesels ordered after the big fire in 2018?



Date: 02/11/20 14:14
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: miralomarail

Their New loco's sure remind me of the Cab's of this SCL  GE @ Richmond, VA




Date: 02/11/20 16:45
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: usmc1401

From what I have read is that. These first two locomotives for the White Pass are not exactly out of the box new. These first two were protypes first sent down to Austalia and then returned to the USA. Number three and later will be all new units.



Date: 02/11/20 16:51
Re: First Pics of White Pass’ New Locomotives from NRE
Author: PHall

usmc1401 Wrote:
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> From what I have read is that. These first two
> locomotives for the White Pass are not exactly out
> of the box new. These first two were protypes
> first sent down to Austalia and then returned to
> the USA. Number three and later will be all new
> units.

And they probably got a nice discount on those demonstrator units too.



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