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Passenger Trains > AutoTrain wreckedDate: 03/26/20 14:43 AutoTrain wrecked Author: GenePoon Amtrak AutoTrain 52(26) has wrecked near Deland FL.
Photo shows auto carriers laid over on their sides. Happened less than an hour ago. Fortunately, NO PASSENGER CARS INVOLVED...auto carriers only... and no passenger injuries. So it's bad, but not as bad as it could have been. ADDENDUM: News story with helicopter video: https://www.wesh.com/article/train-derails-deland/31946583# Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/20 23:40 by GenePoon. Date: 03/26/20 14:55 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: pdt The auto carriers have a high center of gravity, but even so, thats a lot of cars to tip over. I see the power is still on the rails.
Obviously, it could have been caused by a lot of things, but from what I see so far, it looks like a spread/turned rail. That would put a half dozen cars in the ditch. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/20 18:05 by pdt. Date: 03/26/20 14:57 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: chrsjrcj Not too far from the god awful wreck in 2002 that was caused by a sun kink. Thankfully no casualties in this derailment.
ETA: Based off Amtrak's train tracker and google traffic, this appears to be the location of the derailment (near a private crosing): https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0029875,-81.3474413,278m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1 The 2002 derailment was about 20 miles north in Crescent City. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/20 15:02 by chrsjrcj. Date: 03/26/20 15:03 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: Typhoon It didn't get very far.
Date: 03/26/20 15:14 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: goduckies How much fell over.... seams like the helicopter only showed 5 cars.guess those folks all get new cars out of this lol
Posted from Android Date: 03/26/20 15:15 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: Dewman45 It's just south of the DeLand Amtrak station
Posted from Android Date: 03/26/20 15:17 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: RRTom 8 auto carriers on their sides in the helicopter video. Didn't show the rest of the train.
Date: 03/26/20 15:25 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: GenePoon Not so sure about that exact location on the map.
Track-A-Train and Transitdocs seem to put it at South Beresford Rd at West Beresford AVENUE. The prior map is centered at South Beresford Rd at West Beresford ROAD. In the map attached, note that there is a south leg of a wye at or near the location. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/20 15:33 by GenePoon. Date: 03/26/20 15:28 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: chrsjrcj The image in the original post appears to be here - https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0035488,-81.3472299,3a,60y,332.75h,84.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spQbTSbtXbxeLhiFw78rFWA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
Date: 03/26/20 15:35 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: GenePoon Looks like a perfect match to where the Ford Taurus sheriff car is sitting in the first photo. That would put the wreck site at the location
noted by chrsjrcj; the other location that I mapped out would be where the head end, with its GPS tracking, was stopped. This information would appear to remove that wye in the map from being a possible cause. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/20 15:41 by GenePoon. Date: 03/26/20 15:43 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: GenePoon Amtrak says ten auto carriers derailed, eight overturned.
Date: 03/26/20 15:56 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: Railpax71 How and who pays the passenger claims for their vehicles in this case? Do Autotrain customers sign a waiver beforehand to limit Amtrak liability?
Date: 03/26/20 16:06 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: DocJohn Derailed cars are just north of curve at Lake Beresford
Date: 03/26/20 16:22 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: dan autos maybe secured enough to prevent visable damage
Date: 03/26/20 16:25 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: GenePoon Railpax71 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > How and who pays the passenger claims for their > vehicles in this case? Do Autotrain customers sign > a waiver beforehand to limit Amtrak liability? "...In the unlikely event of damage to your vehicle in transit or during loading or unloading, Amtrak will accept responsibility only if you report the damage to an authorized Amtrak representative before leaving the terminal; the Amtrak representative must determine that the damage occurred while the vehicle was in Amtrak custody." Probably this includes damage incurred in a train wreck, too...definitely while in Amtrak custody. dan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > autos maybe secured enough to prevent visable > damage... Unlikely if the auto carriers overturned!!! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/20 16:26 by GenePoon. Date: 03/26/20 16:26 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: Electroliner I wonder what happens now to #92 The Silver Star. Should be at about Orlando right now, but I don't see it at all on the Amtrak Tracker. I know of no reasonable detour unless they send it up the S-line through Wildwood and Ocala. Easy to do after leaving Tampa, and straight shot to JAX, but I don't know where it is currently.
Date: 03/26/20 16:28 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: GenePoon 92(26) is returning to Miami and terminating due to "a disabled train ahead." Amtrak, of course, doesn't admit that it's an Amtrak train.
Date: 03/26/20 16:36 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: PC1974 Anderson didn't get enough virus bailout money. Now this? Which trains heads are on the block this evening? I remember years ago they stole the Supers off the Red Bird after an AutoTrain wreck. Converted the Red Bird to single level equipment. Who's gonna help out the snow birds this time??? HA
Date: 03/26/20 16:49 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: KV1guy GenePoon Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > 92(26) is returning to Miami and terminating due > to "a disabled train ahead." Amtrak, of course, > doesn't admit that it's an Amtrak train. Just ruin's your evening huh... Date: 03/26/20 17:25 Re: AutoTrain wrecked Author: jst3751 dan Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > autos maybe secured enough to prevent visable > damage Generally speaking, no they are not. They are secured for movement front/back and to some extent side/side. But the tie downs used are not strong enough to hold the vehicles in position in an overturn. |