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Date: 06/04/20 10:26
Train steam
Author: texchief1

I am having a painting done of the last Sa n Francisco Chief in Newton , Kansas on Apri 30, 1971.  The picture we are using has steam between the unit as you would expect, as it was taken in late December. What I am  wanting to tknow is if there would be steam showing in late April.  The units are and FP45 leading and a F45 trailing.

I would appreciate any reponse to my question.

Randy Lundgren
Elgin, TX



Date: 06/04/20 11:00
Re: Train steam
Author: 1ST_OUT

Yes, steam heat was used year round. Steam was used on Santa Fe and others for hot water in each car, heat if needed and steam ejector airconditioning.



Date: 06/04/20 11:45
Re: Train steam
Author: RRBMail

texchief1 Wrote:
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> I am having a painting done of the last Sa n
> Francisco Chief in Newton , Kansas on Apri 30,
> 1971.  The picture we are using has steam between
> the unit as you would expect, as it was taken in
> late December. What I am  wanting to tknow is if
> there would be steam showing in late April.  The
> units are and FP45 leading and a F45 trailing.
>
> I would appreciate any reponse to my question.
>
> Randy Lundgren
> Elgin, TX

Go on line a check the temperature in Newton on the day and year 1971 in question. If it was unually hot, Iwould skip the steam.



Date: 06/04/20 12:58
Re: Train steam
Author: texchief1

It was in the low 40s, so that is plenty cold enough for plenty steam.

Thanks guys.

Randy Lundgren
Elgin, TX



Date: 06/04/20 14:29
Re: Train steam
Author: ts1457

RRBaron Wrote:
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> Go on line a check the temperature in Newton on
> the day and year 1971 in question. If it was
> unually hot, Iwould skip the steam.

Almost all of Santa Fe's air conditioned cars used steam ejector equipment. Are you saying not to use air conditioning on a hot day?



Date: 06/04/20 14:33
Re: Train steam
Author: railstiesballast

The issue is not whether steam is being supplied by the locomotives, but whether the steam escaping from water traps and little leaks would resultin a white puff or cloud on condensate.
On a cold day it would be visible, on a hot day it would still be there but not as a condensed cloud, just a clear vapor.
It is a question of art, not science, but science helps explain what we see and when.
Confused yet?
Just make it look good to you.



Date: 06/05/20 05:27
Re: Train steam
Author: texchief1

No, I knnew there was steam alll the time, but when it was hot, you couldn't see the leaking steam.  But in the 40 degree range like it was that day, I'm sure it was visible under a lighted train shed.

Randy Lundgren

ts1457 Wrote:


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> RRBaron Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Go on line a check the temperature in Newton on
> > the day and year 1971 in question. If it was
> > unually hot, Iwould skip the steam.
>
> Almost all of Santa Fe's air conditioned cars used
> steam ejector equipment. Are you saying not to use
> air conditioning on a hot day?



Date: 06/05/20 08:41
Re: Train steam
Author: ts1457

texchief1 Wrote:
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> No, I knnew there was steam alll the time, but
> when it was hot, you couldn't see the leaking
> steam.  But in the 40 degree range like it was
> that day, I'm sure it was visible under a lighted
> train shed.
>
> Randy Lundgren

OK, I should have figured that out.



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