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Date: 06/27/20 10:27
PC #61-427-27
Author: RevRandy

Here's a recently rediscovered film of Penn Central's combined train of many numbers, 61-427-27, arriving into Chicago (coming off the NYC main onto the PRR tracks into Union Station), probably in 1969.  You will see it carried both Boston and New York Sleepercoaches as well as regular sleepers from both. 

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Date: 06/27/20 13:46
Re: PC #61-427-27
Author: mbutte

Certainly a great video & quite a historical perspective!
 
1969 Consist:
3 E-8 Locomotives
1 NY Baggage
1 NY Sleepercoach 
1 NY 10&6 Sleeper
2 NY Double Diner
2 NY coaches
1 Boston Coach
1 Boston Sleepercoach
1 Boston 10&6 Sleeper
10 Cars

Comparable to today's (COVID shorten) current Lake Shore consist:

2 P40 Locomotives
1 Boston Viewliner Sleeper
1 Boston Cafe/Business Class Car
2 Boston Coaches
2 NY Coaches
1 NY Sleeper Lounge (Diner)
2 NY Viewliner Sleepers
1 NY Baggage
10 cars
 



Date: 06/27/20 14:20
Re: PC #61-427-27
Author: jp1822

What was the schedule of this train - or at least from origin points to end points? This was a NYC/BOS to Chicago train....



Date: 06/27/20 15:31
Re: PC #61-427-27
Author: RevRandy

Schedule:

dp NYG (as train 61) 6:30pm
dp BOS (as train 427)  4:00pm
combine in Albany-Rensselaer  (as train 61-427) depart 9:30pm
becomes train 27* at Buffalo (departs 2:50am - no stop in Cleveland, next stop Toledo0
     *27 was the train number for the New England States
arrives Chicago 11:30am  (Union Station) 

the train also carried, as far as Buffalo, equipment for Chicago via Detroit (train 17  nee The Wolverine)  and for Toronto (train 371)

the photo is of the Guide from June 1970 - it does not show the Sleeper or Sleepercoach from Boston but they were there 



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/27/20 15:35 by RevRandy.




Date: 06/27/20 17:27
Re: PC #61-427-27
Author: RMD23

GREAT video, but I think it is outbound to NY.  Current ex PRR ‘509’ bridge is being used in movie (and still in use by NS/Amtrak), the ex-NYC bridge on right that lead to Englewood and the hard right north to LaSalle Street.



Date: 06/27/20 20:44
Re: PC #61-427-27
Author: RevRandy

RMD23 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> GREAT video, but I think it is outbound to NY.
>  Current ex PRR ‘509’ bridge is being used in
> movie (and still in use by NS/Amtrak), the ex-NYC
> bridge on right that lead to Englewood and the
> hard right north to LaSalle Street.

I think you are right as I think about it and review the video. In that case we are seeing 28-14-376-428-62 ias #28, having departed Chicago at 2:35pm, reaching NYG at 10:10am and Boston at 12:15pm. 



Date: 06/28/20 06:19
Re: PC #61-427-27
Author: restricted_speed

I rode the LSL in the late 70's one time from Chicago and one of those (I think) bridges was stuck open.

There was a long delay, with other train(s) backed up behind us.  The train was re-routed (although I don't know how that was done). 

This ended up being an extremely late train, but I didn't care.



Date: 06/28/20 06:38
Re: PC #61-427-27
Author: RodneyZona

Great footage!  Old PC RR Elkhart, IN based passenger train  and engine crews worked to and from Chicago Union Station.
 



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