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Date: 11/20/20 12:18
NEC Holiday Extras
Author: twropr

As far as I can tell, going thru amtrak.com, the only extra trains operating over Thanksgiving are:BOS-WAS trains 2164/2165 on Tue. Nov. 24 and Wed. the 25th, Regional 86 on the 25th, Regional 1135 on Sat. the 28th and Acelas 2235/2238 on Sun. the 29th , along with NY-WAS Regionals 133/134 on the 25th and Acela 2257/2262 on the 29th
Feel free to correct if I missed anything.  This is the first time in years that Amtrak has not come out with a Thanksgiving timetable for the NEC
Andy



Date: 11/20/20 12:24
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: PHall

Considering that the CDC and others are saying stay home and don't travel, I'm not surprised.



Date: 11/20/20 14:48
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: SeaboardMan

Crowds,will be riding the roofs.
 



Date: 11/20/20 15:16
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: robj

CBS news in Chicago reported airport busy, people leaving Chicago for Holiday.   You can't do s--- in  Chicago so guess what the younger people living here are going to do.  If they don't travel and instead visit friends and hang out how is that going to be better?
  Even tho in the backwaters outside the city, bars and resteraunts are staying open. 

Bob

 



Date: 11/20/20 17:04
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: tq-07fan

A lot of colleges and Universities are are going to stay shut down after Thanksgiving, so not as big of a Sunday after Thanksgiving rush. Also the folks on my downtown bus route that have to use their paid time off before the end of the year are using it now around Thanksgiving, since there was no reason to use it before now. I would guess this is the case for a lot of other people so the travel rush may end up being spread out a bit more this year.

I guess we'll know next week!

Jim



Date: 11/21/20 03:46
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: andersonb109

Those who don't believe in government overreach and unconstitutional control will find ways to get around the restrictions. Here in Michigan restaurants are closed again. I'm guessing for longer than the 3 weeks currently mandated even without the needed legislative approval. . But if you want to have a nice in restaurant dinner, Ohio is only an  hour away. With a 10:00P curfew, it's easy to be back home by 11:00. For those in Chicago, Indiana isn't that far away.  During the pandemic, your personal vehicle, planes, and an Amtrak bedroom are probably three of the safest places you can be. Transportation industries are hurting badly enough already without further state government restrictions. Meanwhile governors in states like Ohio and Nebraska seem to have much more measured and sens-able approaches rather than shutting everything down. Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy your travels. 



Date: 11/21/20 04:22
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: joemvcnj

When in the ICU, one has no freedom either.  But 25% restaurant capacity seems to be safe enough without causing spikes.  

Both Ohio and Nebraska are over-night, flyover states, have zero interest in funding any service additions, nor much care about what little they have.



Date: 11/21/20 08:25
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: RRTom

My sister works in the ICU at a hospital in PA. Real busy now because people have postponed getting their health problems addressed and now there is a wave of high-acuity patients that need help.

Let me know when someone produces an isolated, purified SARS Cov2 virus.
Do your research, you might be surprised what you learn.

Posted from iPhone



Date: 11/21/20 09:24
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: joemvcnj

Quoting the Mississippi State Medical Association:
We don’t really want to see Mamaw at Thanksgiving and bury her by Christmas,

MSMA President Dr. Mark Horne said during the meeting, concurring with the state health officer.“We’re going to see some of that. It’s going to happen,” Dobbs replied.Horne agreed.“It’s going to happen. You’re going to say hi at Thanksgiving, it’s so nice to see you, and you’re either going to be visiting her by Facetime in the ICU or planning a small funeral by Christmas,” the MSMA president said.



Date: 11/21/20 10:01
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: robj

joemvcnj Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Quoting the Mississippi State Medical
> Association:
> “We don’t really want to see Mamaw at
> Thanksgiving and bury her by Christmas,”
>
> MSMA President Dr. Mark Horne said during the
> meeting, concurring with the state health
> officer.“We’re going to see some of that.
> It’s going to happen,” Dobbs replied.Horne
> agreed.“It’s going to happen. You’re going
> to say hi at Thanksgiving, it’s so nice to see
> you, and you’re either going to be visiting her
> by Facetime in the ICU or planning a small funeral
> by Christmas,” the MSMA president said.

Not worthy of a Medical Association. 

Bob



Date: 11/21/20 10:22
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: PHall

robj Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> joemvcnj Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quoting the Mississippi State Medical
> > Association:
> > “We don’t really want to see Mamaw at
> > Thanksgiving and bury her by Christmas,”
> >
> > MSMA President Dr. Mark Horne said during the
> > meeting, concurring with the state health
> > officer.“We’re going to see some of that.
> > It’s going to happen,” Dobbs replied.Horne
> > agreed.“It’s going to happen. You’re
> going
> > to say hi at Thanksgiving, it’s so nice to
> see
> > you, and you’re either going to be visiting
> her
> > by Facetime in the ICU or planning a small
> funeral
> > by Christmas,” the MSMA president said.
>
> Not worthy of a Medical Association. 
>
> Bob

What, they're not allowed to report what they're seeing?



Date: 11/21/20 10:45
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: crusader5619

There's conservative heaven in South Dakota......no restrictions, huge infection rates, high per capital death rates and overcrowded near capacity hospitals. Almost heaven in many ways.



Date: 11/21/20 11:01
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: Lackawanna484

The medical profession was told to "stay in its lane" when they protested the body count flowing into emergency rooms due to gun violence.

This isn't much different.



Date: 11/21/20 11:24
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: RRTom

Prophecies are not science.
In direct contradiction to MSMA, 15,000 or so doctors have signed a petition saying these restrictions are nonsense. Comes down to whom to believe. Been there before...what would King Solomon do?

Posted from iPhone



Date: 11/21/20 11:32
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: goduckies

Still less death rate per.capita that the Emmy award winning New York

Posted from Android



Date: 11/21/20 11:33
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: DJ-12

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The medical profession was told to "stay in its
> lane" when they protested the body count flowing
> into emergency rooms due to gun violence.
>
> This isn't much different.

Yeah, these are people who trained their whole lives to take care of sick people and how to prevent the spread of infectious diseases. Why should people give them any credence over the advice of random people on the internet?

Posted from iPhone



Date: 11/21/20 11:35
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: robj

PHall Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> robj Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > joemvcnj Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Quoting the Mississippi State Medical
> > > Association:
> > > “We don’t really want to see Mamaw at
> > > Thanksgiving and bury her by Christmas,”
> > >
> > > MSMA President Dr. Mark Horne said during the
> > > meeting, concurring with the state health
> > > officer.“We’re going to see some of that.
> > > It’s going to happen,” Dobbs
> replied.Horne
> > > agreed.“It’s going to happen. You’re
> > going
> > > to say hi at Thanksgiving, it’s so nice to
> > see
> > > you, and you’re either going to be visiting
> > her
> > > by Facetime in the ICU or planning a small
> > funeral
> > > by Christmas,” the MSMA president said.
> >
> > Not worthy of a Medical Association. 
> >
> > Bob
>
> What, they're not allowed to report what they're
> seeing?

They use some kind of southern slang and scare message, , southern whites and blacks  can't grasp a fact based message outlining risks or detailing precautions.
Where I live people are saying hi to "Mawmaw" all the time, taking them to doctor, bringing groceries, medications, checking to make sure they are OK, visiting to prevent lonliness depression.  I suspect some may become infected, die, probably not more than in safer  state and private institutions.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/surge-in-coronavirus-cases-hits-illinois-nursing-homes/2360603/

Maybe state medical groups should clean up the own house.

1445 in one week at nursing homes in Illinois. When you read the deaths by county, so man in 90's, I can guess where they are mostly living.

Bob

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/20 11:36 by robj.



Date: 11/21/20 11:37
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: joemvcnj

NY's high death rate was last Spring. It has dropped dramatically since they know better how to treat it, there is PPE, and ICU's are not overwhelmed. NYC positivity rate is now 3%. South Dakota's is 55%. But upstate NY is now doing many times worse with the virus than last Spring. When people let their guard down, the virus will know it. 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/20 11:38 by joemvcnj.



Date: 11/21/20 12:00
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: gbmott

WHY can't people on this board stick to discussion of passenger issues?  We started out OK with this thread until andersonb109 had to launch another of his tirades and then everyone else felt compelled to either dispute or defend.  There are plenty of internet venues for discussion of political issues, not many for rail passenger issues.

Gordon



Date: 11/21/20 12:07
Re: NEC Holiday Extras
Author: RuleG

RRTom Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Prophecies are not science.
> In direct contradiction to MSMA, 15,000 or so
> doctors have signed a petition saying these
> restrictions are nonsense. Comes down to whom to
> believe. Been there before...what would King
> Solomon do?
>
> Posted from iPhone

A statement from Southwestern Pennsylvania nurse leaders on COVID-19 issued on Friday, December 20, 2020:

"We have seen the faces of COVID-19 firsthand and the toll it takes on all frontline healthcare providers – nurses, physicians, nursing assistants, respiratory therapists, and many others every day. We also see the effect it has on patients and families suffering from the virus and the potential long-term health challenges it may pose.

We recognize many have “Covid Fatigue” and miss living the lives we once did. But we cannot let our guard down or it will be much, much longer before we will be able to live those lives again. While we have focused on avoiding large gatherings, which is appropriate, the spread of the infection in this second surge has been attributed to smaller, casual gatherings that are deceptively safe.

With the holidays upon us, it has never been more important than right now to double down on our efforts to exercise good judgement so we can control that which we can — our behaviors. These behaviors contribute to our ability as a community to limit the continued spread of COVID-19, and the flu. We must take the necessary steps and make these sacrifices today, in hopes of a better tomorrow."

The full text of the statement can be found here:

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/covid-19/2020/11/20/A-Letter-From-Local-Nurse-Leaders/stories/202011200159



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/20 12:16 by RuleG.



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