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Date: 04/01/21 17:17
Amtrak Charger #300
Author: Jrudnicki

The first Phase VI locomotive comes into the light.

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Date: 04/01/21 17:29
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: DevalDragon

Looks uglier in pictures than it did in the artist rendering.



Date: 04/01/21 17:37
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: PacificElectric1961

Looks great! 



Date: 04/01/21 17:49
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: PHall

DevalDragon Wrote:
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> Looks uglier in pictures than it did in the artist
> rendering.

And what exactly would you prefer?



Date: 04/01/21 19:18
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: ronald321

It's not bad -- at least it colorful.  Wish I could say it's great ---

But, I am forever doomed, because I've seen that gorgeous Illinois Central color scheme of Brown & Orange, trimmed in Yellow.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/21 19:18 by ronald321.



Date: 04/01/21 21:01
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: IC_2024

ronald321 Wrote:
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> It's not bad -- at least it colorful.  Wish I
> could say it's great ---
>
> But, I am forever doomed, because I've seen that
> gorgeous Illinois Central color scheme of Brown &
> Orange, trimmed in Yellow.

Haha--you're my brother there, ronald321.   I saw those IC colors when I was only 4 and have been hooked ever since!
This one looks fine, though, and looking forward to seeing and possibly running Amtrak 301, the one that is painted like the first Amtrak-paint loco, ex PC 4316.



Date: 04/01/21 22:36
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: PHall

Brown and orange is nice, but Daylight Red and Orange is better.



Date: 04/02/21 01:48
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: goduckies

IC_2024 Wrote:
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> ronald321 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's not bad -- at least it colorful.  Wish I
> > could say it's great ---
> >
> > But, I am forever doomed, because I've seen
> that
> > gorgeous Illinois Central color scheme of Brown
> &
> > Orange, trimmed in Yellow.
>
> Haha--you're my brother there, ronald321.   I
> saw those IC colors when I was only 4 and have
> been hooked ever since!
> This one looks fine, though, and looking forward
> to seeing and possibly running Amtrak 301, the one
> that is painted like the first Amtrak-paint loco,
> ex PC 4316.

I can't wait to see the Pepsi can

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Date: 04/02/21 05:13
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: masterphots

PHall Wrote:
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> Brown and orange is nice, but Daylight Red and
> Orange is better.

Amen to that.   Plus I'd add ATSF warbonnet,  NYC lightning stripe,  GN original green/orange, NP two-tone green,  and any number of EMD-designed liveries ahead of brown/orange.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/02/21 05:14 by masterphots.



Date: 04/02/21 12:17
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: joemvcnj

I don't care what color it is so long as it works, and by all accounts, it won't. 



Date: 04/02/21 12:41
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: MacBeau

Thank you for the laugh.
—Mac

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> I don't care what color it is so long as it works,
> and by all accounts, it won't. 



Date: 04/02/21 17:42
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: BoilingMan

Damn-  I forgot what I was going to say!  I'm sure it was pretty negative though....
SR



Date: 04/02/21 23:07
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: YoungOldHead

Guaranteed it won't work. 

My assumption. The chargers will be like the roll out of the GE's. Here is the book, if you have a problem, level 3 code, reset and if that doesn't work reboot. Thats pretty much been the mantra for the entire P42 fleet since day 1.

Personally, I figure the chargers will be the 21st century version of the P30  AT BEST. 



Date: 04/03/21 07:47
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: kscessnadriver

YoungOldHead Wrote:
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> Guaranteed it won't work. 
>
> My assumption. The chargers will be like the roll
> out of the GE's. Here is the book, if you have a
> problem, level 3 code, reset and if that doesn't
> work reboot. Thats pretty much been the mantra for
> the entire P42 fleet since day 1.
>
> Personally, I figure the chargers will be the 21st
> century version of the P30  AT BEST. 

They work fine out West. I think the reason they don't work in the Midwest has more to do with the shops that are maintaining them than the equipment itself.



Date: 04/03/21 09:07
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: joemvcnj

kscessnadriver Wrote:
>
> They work fine out West. I think the reason they
> don't work in the Midwest has more to do with the
> shops that are maintaining them than the equipment itself.

OK, but what about the snow ?

To test this scientifically, swap 2 pairs of Chargers between the west and the midwest, and compare their MDBF after 3 months Dec-Feb. A halfway responsible Amtrak CMO would do that. This is nothing more than a rapid transit concept used when identical car types are assigned to 2 car barns, yet one batch performs significantly better than the other. 



Date: 04/03/21 11:46
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: jst3751

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> kscessnadriver Wrote:
> >
> > They work fine out West. I think the reason
> they
> > don't work in the Midwest has more to do with
> the
> > shops that are maintaining them than the
> equipment itself.
>
> OK, but what about the snow ?
>
> To test this scientifically, swap 2 pairs of
> Chargers between the west and the midwest, and
> compare their MDBF after 3 months Dec-Feb. A
> halfway responsible Amtrak CMO would do that. This
> is nothing more than a rapid transit concept used
> when identical car types are assigned to 2 car
> barns, yet one batch performs significantly better
> than the other. 

Except, Amtrak has ZERO ZILCH NADA NET NONE control over where those CALIFORNIA STATE OWNED and WASHINGTON STATE OWNED and OREGON STATE OWNED Chargers can be used.

Of course, none of those CALIFORNIA STATE OWNED and WASHINGTON STATE OWNED and OREGON STATE OWNED Chargers are ever touched by the crews at Beech Grove, which is widely known to have a poor history of properly maintaining locomotives.



Date: 04/03/21 12:48
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: 2904

And the Midwest chargers aren’t touched by Beech Grove either.... don’t forget the Midwest chargers are still under warranty and plenty of maintenance is done by Siemens techs that work in Chicago.

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Date: 04/03/21 13:20
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: Mgoldman

It's blue.

With a red nose.  Not exactly insprired, but not unattractive, either.

/Mitch



Date: 04/03/21 15:39
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: DevalDragon

2904 Wrote:
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> And the Midwest chargers aren’t touched by Beech
> Grove either.... don’t forget the Midwest
> chargers are still under warranty and plenty of
> maintenance is done by Siemens techs that work in
> Chicago.

Allegedly.



Date: 04/04/21 12:49
Re: Amtrak Charger #300
Author: PHall

2904 Wrote:
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> And the Midwest chargers aren’t touched by Beech
> Grove either.... don’t forget the Midwest
> chargers are still under warranty and plenty of
> maintenance is done by Siemens techs that work in
> Chicago.
>
> Posted from iPhone

Are you sure it's Siemens techs that do the work or is it the normal way where the Amtrak workers do the work "supervised" by Siemens techs.



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