Passenger Trains > article: wave of violence against cta workers highlights the.....

need for transit ambassadors.

https://chi.streetsblog.org/2021/12/03/wave-of-violence-against-cta-workers-highlights-the-need-for-transit-ambassadors/

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Yet the CTA fired a bus driver who 
body slammed a kook who was assaulting
a fellow driver in the middle of the night.

A good site to visit if you are contemplating a
visit to Chicago is cwbchicago.com   It covers
crime downtown and in the Mag Mile shopping
district.

Another factor in public transportation crime
is that concealed carry is not allowed. Except 
for criminals.
 

There is only one way to clean this up, and it isn't transit ambassadors. 

Of course, law enforcement would rather focus on the real issues, such as parents attending school board meetings. 

Lock up the losers who do the crimes instead of letting them out on low or cashless bail. They know they won't be held by woke prosecutors so crime away! 

it would be interesting to have surveys on the major public rail transportation systems in this country of what current and potential riders want:

1. no change in current law enforcement on/.near public rail transit 

2. increased law enforcement presence on/near public rail transit

3. increased transit ambassadors on/near public rail transit

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In many places, 5% of your population causes 95% of your problems.

Posted from Android

Transit "ambassadors?"

Must be a job title thought up by someone as Woke as the malcontents who continually make excuses for the violent perpetrators.

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> In many places, 5% of your population causes 95%
> of your problems.
>
> Posted from Android

ya know what, i have NEVER spoken to a victim or witness of a violent crime that cared about those percentages..........

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goneon66 Wrote:
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> Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> > In many places, 5% of your population causes
> 95%
> > of your problems.
> >
> > Posted from Android
>
> ya know what, i have NEVER spoken to a victim or
> witness of a violent crime that cared about those
> percentages..........
>
> 66

Many of the people who cite those statistics and then say that public transit is "safe" demonstrate the worst selfishness of our society. 

goneon66 Wrote:
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> Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> > In many places, 5% of your population causes
> 95%
> > of your problems.
> >
> > Posted from Android
>
> ya know what, i have NEVER spoken to a victim or
> witness of a violent crime that cared about those
> percentages..........
>
> 66

Do you believe all people are ruthless and violent?

CTA is unsafe compared to what ? The rest of Chicago ? Forget it. That's like saying Chicago is a safe city but for CTA. It is not. They are averaging 6 carjackings a day, and that includes right in the Loop, Mag Mile, Streeterville, and Near North. Public transit is merely a reflection of what the general area is like. If you think jumping in your car will inoculate you from that, forget it. You are more apt to get beaten and robbed in city parking decks. 

Read and learn: https://cwbchicago.com/
 



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/21 08:32 by joemvcnj.

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> goneon66 Wrote:
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> > Lackawanna484 Wrote:
> >
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> > > In many places, 5% of your population causes
> > 95%
> > > of your problems.
> > >
> > > Posted from Android
> >
> > ya know what, i have NEVER spoken to a victim
> or
> > witness of a violent crime that cared about
> those
> > percentages..........
> >
> > 66
>
> Do you believe all people are ruthless and
> violent?

NO, and i never said that.

nice try..........

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joemvcnj Wrote:
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> CTA is unsafe compared to what ? The rest of
> Chicago ? Forget it. That's like saying Chicago is
> a safe city but for CTA. It is not. They are
> averaging 6 carjackings a day, and that includes
> right in the Loop, Mag Mile, Streeterville, and
> Near North. Public transit is merely a reflection
> of what the general area is like. If you think
> jumping in your car will inoculate you from that,
> forget it. You are more apt to get beaten and
> robbed in city parking decks. 
>
> Read and learn: https://cwbchicago.com/
>  

All of this is due to the failure of the mayor to get crime under control because they're afraid to be called racist. 

altoonafn Wrote:

> All of this is due to the failure of the mayor to
> get crime under control because they're afraid to
> be called racist. 

Not all, and I don't know what goes on in her head. Cook County DA Kim Foxx and her court system are just as bad, if not more culpable, routinely letting go of repeat felons, cheap bonds, ankle bracelets, etc. 

As for CTA, the worst places to be are Wilson, Belmont, Division, Grand, Jackson and Roosevelt on the State Street line. That said, I would no longer so much as walk outside Union Station either, not even down Jackson Blvd a block or two to Giordanno's or Lou Mitchells. A NWU grad student was shot and killed a few months ago during AM rush on the sidewalk near Willis Tower.

Just get on the next Metra and head to Naperville, Des Plaines, or Morton Grove. All is not lost. Great hobby shops with lots of railroad books and magazines are in Norwood Park and Des Plaines, accessible by Pace buses as well. 

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> In many places, 5% of your population causes 95%
> of your problems.
>
> Posted from Android

Ain't that the truth!

I would very much appreciate to know which unfamiliar RR places I might be headed to that may be dangerous. 
I had no idea the area around Seattle King Street station has gone from not good to very bad in the last few years. 
I wish Trainorders was around in 1978 when I was in Ogden, UT for 24 hours. 
 

goneon66 Wrote:
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> it would be interesting to have surveys on the
> major public rail transportation systems in this
> country of what current and potential riders
> want:
>
> 1. no change in current law enforcement on/.near
> public rail transit 
>
> 2. increased law enforcement presence on/near
> public rail transit
>
> 3. increased transit ambassadors on/near public
> rail transit
>
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I'll take #2

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> altoonafn Wrote:
>
> > All of this is due to the failure of the mayor
> to
> > get crime under control because they're afraid
> to
> > be called racist. 
>
> Not all, and I don't know what goes on in her
> head. Cook County DA Kim Foxx and her court system
> are just as bad, if not more culpable, routinely
> letting go of repeat felons, cheap bonds, ankle
> bracelets, etc. 
>
> As for CTA, the worst places to be are Wilson,
> Belmont, Division, Grand, Jackson and Roosevelt on
> the State Street line. That said, I would no
> longer so much as walk outside Union Station
> either, not even down Jackson Blvd a block or two
> to Giordanno's or Lou Mitchells. A NWU grad
> student was shot and killed a few months ago
> during AM rush on the sidewalk near Willis Tower.
>
> Just get on the next Metra and head to Naperville,
> Des Plaines, or Morton Grove. All is not lost.
> Great hobby shops with lots of railroad books and
> magazines are in Norwood Park and Des Plaines,
> accessible by Pace buses as well. 

Recently cancelled travel plans to a meeting in Chicago for this very reason. No more city trips until policies change.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/21 15:16 by SanDiegan.

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> > In many places, 5% of your population causes
> 95%
> > of your problems.
> >
> > Posted from Android
>
> Ain't that the truth!

It's pretty simple, not enough cops and too many crminals back out on the street. These policies failed before and will fail again. Three Strikes worked !



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What is the point of an unarmed transit ambassador?