Passenger Trains > article: cta crime begs for real deterrence:half measures wont do

https://wirepoints.org/cta-crime-problem-begs-for-real-deterrence-half-measures-wont-do-wirepoints/

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If more people would respect, honor and even thank police officers for their work, maybe we'd have more law enforcement.  And then, let them do their job without micromanaging them.  Let them knock some heads and do some hard arrests on these thugs.  That's what it takes--overwhelming force.

And then instant punishment by a REAL district attorney, who wants to get the trash off the street.

Correct, this and the previous post. 100% what should be done.

MEKoch Wrote:
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> And then instant punishment by a REAL district
> attorney, who wants to get the trash off the
> street.

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coach Wrote:
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> If more people would respect, honor and even thank
> police officers for their work, maybe we'd have
> more law enforcement.  And then, let them do
> their job without micromanaging them.  Let them
> knock some heads and do some hard arrests on these
> thugs.  That's what it takes--overwhelming force.


and unfortunately so many law enforcement act in a manner not deserving respect, honor, or thanks.

However so many do act in a m manner deserving respect, honor, and thanks.

So if an angry policeman sees you taking photos - which he believes is illegal - you are okay with receiving a knocked head and be arrested hard?
I do not know your statistics but that knock and hard arrest will likely be much worse if you are a minority member of many kinds, or are less than affluent.

Be careful what you wish for.

MP

emd_mrs1 Wrote:
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> coach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If more people would respect, honor and even
> thank
> > police officers for their work, maybe we'd have
> > more law enforcement.  And then, let them do
> > their job without micromanaging them.  Let
> them
> > knock some heads and do some hard arrests on
> these
> > thugs.  That's what it takes--overwhelming
> force.
>
>
> and unfortunately so many law enforcement act in a
> manner not deserving respect, honor, or thanks.
>
> However so many do act in a m manner deserving
> respect, honor, and thanks.
>
> So if an angry policeman sees you taking photos -
> which he believes is illegal - you are okay with
> receiving a knocked head and be arrested hard?
> I do not know your statistics but that knock and
> hard arrest will likely be much worse if you are a
> minority member of many kinds, or are less than
> affluent.
>
> Be careful what you wish for.
>
> MP

historically, i wonder how many "use of force" arrests could have been avoided IF the suspects had complied with the officers requests?

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"...historically, i wonder how many "use of force" arrests could have been avoided IF the suspects had complied with the officers requests?"


Too Many Antifa, BLM and others in fringe groups think that they have the right to resist law enforcement.

when you mention failing to comply/resisting arrest to those who think police excessive force is a problem in this day and age, most become silent.

in most large cities where crime has increased on and near public rail transit, people want MORE police patrols to enforce laws..........

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Thanks/  goneon66. I read that whole article you linked (Wirepoints) including the Comments section. Incredible. These are real Chicagoans, talking about their lives and experiences on the Trains, both employees and customers.

Mainly on the subways, but there have also been incidents on Metra and other heavy rail ops. Sad stuff- what to do? It seems to be nearing a breaking point.

"....historically, i wonder how many "use of force" arrests could have been avoided IF the suspects had complied with the officers requests?"

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THIS.

SANSR Wrote:
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> "....historically, i wonder how many "use of
> force" arrests could have been avoided IF the
> suspects had complied with the officers
> requests?"
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> THIS.


Of course, most suspects, no matter where they are or who they are, are not inclined comply because they don't want to go to jail.

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> "....historically, i wonder how many "use of
> force" arrests could have been avoided IF the
> suspects had complied with the officers
> requests?"

One could also wonder how many times there was no resistance but the officers used force because they wanted to or because they could...

or how many times "resistance" was self defense or self-preservation.

A number of people swallow the line "the suspect resisted" and immediately presume his deserving of injury or death without any question.

Some of you should consider watching the movie "Fruitvale Station" to get a different perspective.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334649/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

 

Its got to be true if it's in the movies.

TomG Wrote:
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> Its got to be true if it's in the movies.

It's a dramatization of a real event on BART.  The issue is not whether the event happened, but providing a different perspective than most of the views expressed in this thread.

emd_mrs1 Wrote:
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> --------------------------------------------------
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> > "....historically, i wonder how many "use of
> > force" arrests could have been avoided IF the
> > suspects had complied with the officers
> > requests?"
>
> One could also wonder how many times there was no
> resistance but the officers used force because
> they wanted to or because they could...
>
> or how many times "resistance" was self defense or
> self-preservation.
>
> A number of people swallow the line "the suspect
> resisted" and immediately presume his deserving of
> injury or death without any question.

one also chose not to answer my simple question.  good bye.........

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OldPorter Wrote:
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> Thanks/  goneon66. I read that whole article you
> linked (Wirepoints) including the Comments
> section. Incredible. These are real Chicagoans,
> talking about their lives and experiences on the
> Trains, both employees and customers.
>
> Mainly on the subways, but there have also been
> incidents on Metra and other heavy rail ops. Sad
> stuff- what to do? It seems to be nearing a
> breaking point.

no problem porter and thanks for reading the article and comments.

you be safe.........

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