Passenger Trains > Trains 381/382 Cancelled - No Equipment

Because Amtrak can't maintain its equipment and chose to put cars into storage, there will be no Carl Sandburg service starting August 2nd through at least the 7th.

I can think of 66 Billion reasons this happened, but the only one we need to mention is Amtrak...

PC1974 Wrote:
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> I can think of 66 Billion reasons this happened,
> but the only one we need to mention is Amtrak...

Amtrak is complete Joke.

These trains have 3 cars and a charger

Pathetic Amtrak can’t find 3 cars

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In fairness to Amtrak, they haven’t seen any of that money yet.

Nick

PC1974 Wrote:
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> I can think of 66 Billion reasons this happened,
> but the only one we need to mention is Amtrak...

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amtrakbill Wrote:
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> These trains have 3 cars and a charger
>
> Pathetic Amtrak can’t find 3 cars
>
> Posted from iPhone

Or find some commuter coaches??? It's not a foreign concept. Amtrak was short electric motors - they borrowed from NJT. Amtrak wanted more coaches on Clocker trains - they put some old Heritage Coaches in with the Amfleets. Amtrak still wanted to operate the Adirondack north of Albany to Montreal - so they borrowed train sets from VIA Rail Canada. Amtrak wanted extra cars and consists for Thanksgiving trains - they would borrow commuter cars. In this "time of a crunch" have they not learned their lesson that maybe they should ask NJT, MARC, etc. for extra coaches they could potentially borrow and keep on standby in Chicago if worst comes for worst - for CORRIDOR OPERATION. You've got to be kidding with this! 

How much of pre-Covid Metra rush hour service is running ?

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4552 Wrote:
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> Because Amtrak can't maintain its equipment and
> chose to put cars into storage, there will be no
> Carl Sandburg service starting August 2nd through
> at least the 7th.

Maintain those cars with what money exactly? You all have a short memory, the delay of the second Covid relief bill is why this happened.

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joemvcnj Wrote:
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> How much of pre-Covid Metra rush hour service is
> running ?
>
> Posted from Android

Riding to Quincy in a gallery car sounds like fun...well not really. Reminds of when Amtrak and VRE briefly teamed up to add a "Boise Budd" (de-motored RDC) to the Crescent and used it for shorts between DC and Greensboro. Southbound the car soon emptied out, as most of the pax rode to Manassas on VRE tickets. The conductor took pity on me and said I could take an empty seat in the regular coaches for the rest of my trip to Charlottesville.

Paul Wilson
Arlington, VA

So run a set of them to Milwaukee and run the Quincy train with that equipment.

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Will Amtrak have the money before August 8th? If not why is Amtrak planning to have enough working cars to restore the service on that date?

Seems your theory is incorrect.


Wolverine350 Wrote:
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> 4552 Wrote:
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> > Because Amtrak can't maintain its equipment and
> > chose to put cars into storage, there will be
> no
> > Carl Sandburg service starting August 2nd
> through
> > at least the 7th.
>
> Maintain those cars with what money exactly? You
> all have a short memory, the delay of the second
> Covid relief bill is why this happened.
>
> Posted from iPhone

In previous years due to equipment shortages around Thanksgiving, complete Caltrain sets were covering for Amtrak trains from the Bay Area to Sacramento.
 

amtrakbill Wrote:
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> These trains have 3 cars and a charger
>
> Pathetic Amtrak can’t find 3 cars
>

...for a week.

TAW

4552 Wrote:
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> Will Amtrak have the money before August 8th? If
> not why is Amtrak planning to have enough working
> cars to restore the service on that date?
>
> Seems your theory is incorrect.
>
>
> Wolverine350 Wrote:
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> -----
> > 4552 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Because Amtrak can't maintain its equipment
> and
> > > chose to put cars into storage, there will be
> > no
> > > Carl Sandburg service starting August 2nd
> > through
> > > at least the 7th.
> >
> > Maintain those cars with what money exactly?
> You
> > all have a short memory, the delay of the
> second
> > Covid relief bill is why this happened.
> >
> > Posted from iPhone

They didn’t have money to keep trains running or keep paying salaries. Replacing skilled workers takes time especially in this job market. Up until recently Amtrak was offering extremely generous bonuses for employees willing to relocate to Beech Grove.

Wolverine350 Wrote:
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> 4552 Wrote:
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> -----
> > Will Amtrak have the money before August 8th?
> If
> > not why is Amtrak planning to have enough
> working
> > cars to restore the service on that date?
> >
> > Seems your theory is incorrect.
> >
> >
> > Wolverine350 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 4552 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Because Amtrak can't maintain its equipment
> > and
> > > > chose to put cars into storage, there will
> be
> > > no
> > > > Carl Sandburg service starting August 2nd
> > > through
> > > > at least the 7th.
> > >
> > > Maintain those cars with what money exactly?
> > You
> > > all have a short memory, the delay of the
> > second
> > > Covid relief bill is why this happened.
> > >
> > > Posted from iPhone
>
> They didn’t have money to keep trains running or
> keep paying salaries. Replacing skilled workers
> takes time especially in this job market. Up
> until recently Amtrak was offering extremely
> generous bonuses for employees willing to relocate
> to Beech Grove.

Also while it’s a tempting punch line for comments on TO - the $66 billion has absolutely nothing to do with day to day operations and routine overhaul and maintenance of existing fleet. That is for purchasing new equipment and large future capital investments in track and developing new routes - and much of it won’t go to Amtrak directly but rather granted through federal- state partnership grants. So while it’s a punch line every time there’s any sort of problem - axing the $66 billion is really just screwing the future.

How about take 1 coach off each N E corridor train?

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NGotwalt Quote: "In fairness to Amtrak, they haven’t seen any of that money yet."

In fairness to taxpayers that worked for their money, I hope they never do...

railcity Wrote:
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> PC1974 Wrote:
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> > I can think of 66 Billion reasons this
> happened,
> > but the only one we need to mention is
> Amtrak...
>
> Amtrak is complete Joke.

I have been taken to task for mentioning Amjoke in the past. I stand by it. Be prepared for the apologists to speak ill of your assessment.

And the band played on.

Regards

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kbehling Wrote:
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> How about take 1 coach off each N E corridor
> train?
>
> Posted from Android

It seems that it might be a good idea to have some sort of minimalist corridor train set in a stand-by status in Chicago for Midwestern corridor service. LA had the Horizon low level train set as a backup that it plugged into service as needed. It typical; had regular assignment duty. Amtrak should have no problem coming up with at least five Amfleet 1 coaches that it could send to the Midwest (from various NEC service). Don't rob from the Amfleet II's that are already constricting the LD trains. Multiple trains on the NEC, while some Midwestern trains are at 2x per day  at most, or still just 1x per day like the LD trains!

jp1822 Wrote:
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> amtrakbill Wrote:
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> > These trains have 3 cars and a charger
> >
> > Pathetic Amtrak can’t find 3 cars
> >
> > Posted from iPhone
>
> Or find some commuter coaches??? It's not a
> foreign concept. Amtrak was short electric motors
> - they borrowed from NJT. Amtrak wanted more
> coaches on Clocker trains - they put some old
> Heritage Coaches in with the Amfleets. Amtrak
> still wanted to operate the Adirondack north of
> Albany to Montreal - so they borrowed train sets
> from VIA Rail Canada. Amtrak wanted extra cars and
> consists for Thanksgiving trains - they would
> borrow commuter cars. In this "time of a crunch"
> have they not learned their lesson that maybe they
> should ask NJT, MARC, etc. for extra coaches they
> could potentially borrow and keep on standby in
> Chicago if worst comes for worst - for CORRIDOR
> OPERATION. You've got to be kidding with this! 

That was back when Amtrak had good leadership!

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