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Passenger Trains > section pullman on the CZ ZepherDate: 05/23/23 10:00 section pullman on the CZ Zepher Author: ApproachCircuit The original consist of the CZ had a section sleeping car. But I think it was pulled off within a year or so of
the trains inaugural run. Does anybody recall the approximate date this occurred? Thank you, Date: 05/23/23 10:12 Re: section pullman on the CZ Zepher Author: DavidP ApproachCircuit Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > The original consist of the CZ had a section > sleeping car. But I think it was pulled off within > a year or so of > the trains inaugural run. Does anybody recall the > approximate date this occurred? > > Thank you, > I think the 16-section cars ran for close to ten years before being converted to "flat top" coaches. Dave Date: 05/23/23 11:50 Re: section pullman on the CZ Zepher Author: WP17 Karl Zimmerman reports in his book on the CZ that the 16 section sleepers were converted to coaches in 1963-64
WP17 Date: 05/23/23 11:50 Re: section pullman on the CZ Zepher Author: TomG 1963-1964
Date: 05/23/23 16:08 Re: section pullman on the CZ Zepher Author: timz Just rooms available in the 5/62 Guide
https://timetableworld.com/ttw-viewer.php?token=3d6a1c96-d5f9-4320-92c4-984dba3206ae Date: 05/23/23 20:09 Re: section pullman on the CZ Zepher Author: Amtrak2025 The Burlington California Zephyr timetable in this Guide (page 748) shows 16 Section Pullman car CZ-12 as operating June 11 through September 13. The Rio Grande and Western Pacific timetables don't show it. The Burlington equipment listing appears to be most detailed, mentioning things like the "Cable Car" lounge, etc.
timz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just rooms available in the 5/62 Guide > > https://timetableworld.com/ttw-viewer.php?token=3d > 6a1c96-d5f9-4320-92c4-984dba3206ae Date: 05/24/23 12:58 Re: section pullman on the CZ Zepher Author: NPEDDIE If my memory serves me correctly, the section cars were the last to be sold as people thought that sections were old fashioned. The 1938 20th Century and Broadway had no open sections. Also, the GN had some lightweight sleepers with section accommodations which also where the last to be sold. Pullman rebuilt those into enclosed accommodations.
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