Passenger Trains > Crescent Consist

Can anybody tell me what the present Crescent consist is

Thanks!

texchief1
RC Lundgren

All of these cars are incredibly filthy, borderline impossible to see out of:
2 Engines
3 Coach Cars (usually the first one is blocked)
1 lounge
2 Sleepers
1 Dorm/Bagge 

Amtrak-P42 Wrote:
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> All of these cars are incredibly filthy,
> borderline impossible to see out of:
> 2 Engines
> 3 Coach Cars (usually the first one is blocked)
> 1 lounge
> 2 Sleepers
> 1 Dorm/Bagge 

What's the reasoning for blocking the first coach? If they have the ability to sell space in it - why is space not sold? Please don't tell me the only time this car is opened up is between Washington DC and NYP (e.g. while on the NEC). I actually saw the Crescent as a booking option when traveling between Washington DC and NYP last week. 

I absolutely do NOT understand why they can't operate the Viewliner II Diner in the Crescent consist. The sleeper car attendants on the Silver Service and Lake Shore Limited help out in the VIewliner II Diner. My point in saying that - it could be operated as just a basic "lounge" car so people aren't cooped up in their rooms for the entire trip (still keep all food service out of the horribly designed Amfleet Diner Lite car). There's just absolutely no rationale excuse for not operating the Viewliner II Diner on this route. They have the Viewliner II Diners in inventory. Plenty of them. It would only take one attendant to restore food service for sleeper car passengers only in this car/train. Yes, a cost, but Amtrak has the money. Interestingly, Amtrak adjusted the schedule between Atlanta and Washington DC conveniently enough to avoid dining options of Atlanta bound or boarding passengers. 

The schedule change for the crescent was directly related to OTP negotiations with the host and coming up with a “certified schedule” that both parties agreed to - this is required by law in order to pursue relief from the STB. There was no ulterior motive on Amtrak’s side of it. The Crescent’s OTP before the change was absolutely atrocious due almost completely to NS’s handling of the train.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/23 09:40 by lordsigma.

Schedule change hasn't fixed the problem.
20 of 06/03: departed ATL 1 hr, 5 mins late
20 of 06/02: departed ATL 43 mins late
20 of 06/01: departed ATL 1 hr, 20 mins late
20 of 05/31: departed ATL 46 mins late
20 of 05/30: departed ATL 1 hr, 9 mins late
20 of 05/29: departed ATL 8 mins late
20 of 05/28: departed ATL 1 hr, 52 mins late
20 of 05/27: departed ATL 1 hr, 29 mins late
20 of 05/26: departed ATL 1 hr, 36 mins late
20 of 05/25: departed ATL on-time

Given the slow-poke schedule south of Atlanta plus the delays, routing the train through Mobile, Montgomery, and West Point to get off NS would be no slower and probably more reliable.

That's sad not only is 19 and 20s schedule ridiculous, they keep it downgraded like the other LD Trains!

ctillnc Wrote:
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> Schedule change hasn't fixed the problem.

You are unfortunately correct. But the schedule change was a required first step.

NS needs to be dragged into court and penalized heavily.  The schedule is already SLOW and they still cannot operate one passenger train a day on time. 

But it is okay for them to operate 15,000 ft. trains that won't fit anywhere; have mechanical problems; block the rail road for three hours when problems occur.  

Back in the late 70s and early 80s, I was on the Crescent almost daily, and we rarely operated late; we even made up time going north into D.C. with big 14 car trains.  Nothing will change with NS, until it costs them big money for all delays.  

Well PSR rules the land now, so things like scheduling and precision don’t matter anymore.

Regards

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Amtrak-P42 Wrote:
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> All of these cars are incredibly filthy,
> borderline impossible to see out of:
> 2 Engines
> 3 Coach Cars (usually the first one is blocked)
> 1 lounge
> 2 Sleepers
> 1 Dorm/Bagge 

Amen to this!

jp1822 Wrote:
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> Amtrak-P42 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All of these cars are incredibly filthy,
> > borderline impossible to see out of:
> > 2 Engines
> > 3 Coach Cars (usually the first one is blocked)
> > 1 lounge
> > 2 Sleepers
> > 1 Dorm/Bagge 
>
> What's the reasoning for blocking the first coach?
> If they have the ability to sell space in it - why
> is space not sold? Please don't tell me the only
> time this car is opened up is between Washington
> DC and NYP (e.g. while on the NEC). I actually saw
> the Crescent as a booking option when traveling
> between Washington DC and NYP last week. 


Thought I would re-post this..... Anyone know why the first coach of the three (3) coaches is blocked off???