Passenger Trains > Rocky Mountaineer 8-car Training Run 17 April 2024

1 - The Rocky Mountaineer (RMRX) 8021 & 8020 climbed the Big 10 near Rocky, Colorado, on Union Pacific's Moffat Tunnel Subdivision 17 April 2024.  This was a training run with 8-cars.

2 - RMRX 8021 emerged from UP's tunnel one near Plainview, CO, 17 April 2024.

3 - 8-car Rocky Mountaineer was approaching Plainview, CO.  UP train symbol P DVGSJ-17.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/24 13:24 by cozephyr.

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Very nice pictures! Classy train!

It is a great ride.  I recommend it 1000%!
 

Kudos to them. I wonder how they got UP to make an agreement with them?
 

Hasn't UP had an agreement with them for a long time? I was under the impression in years past, they used a UP engine crew with their own on board staff. Otherwise a Rocky Mountaineer crew would have to qualify on the territory so it was easier to use UP engineers and conductors.

paid the UP  and UP can run short timed crewed trains around them if they need to, and the trains operate on a less demanding schedule compared with amtrak,  and have their own crews,  these trips are part of the qualification process.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/24 21:40 by dan.

Thanks for the nice post!

texchief1

westcoastrails Wrote:
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> Hasn't UP had an agreement with them for a long
> time? I was under the impression in years past,
> they used a UP engine crew with their own on board
> staff. Otherwise a Rocky Mountaineer crew would
> have to qualify on the territory so it was easier
> to use UP engineers and conductors.

UP crews do not operate Rocky.  One of the reasons Rocky was able to make an agreement with UP was the stipulation that Rocky use its own operating crews.  UP likes it since they have no involvement with equipment, crews, servicing.  Rocky provides all that for themselves, and all UP has to provide is the railroad and dispatchers.  BSB

i think they use their own crews in canada too

I wonder how much of a percentage of the fare is attributible to the UP's track charges?

well amtrak trains pay  5$ a mile  sometimes up to 10$  so if they charged 100$ a mile...to rmr?   The UP mgmt team has been said to be  very happy and took a trip, each season so far.  Maybe another soon?

BigSkyBlue Wrote:
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> westcoastrails Wrote:
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> > Hasn't UP had an agreement with them for a long
> > time? I was under the impression in years past,
> > they used a UP engine crew with their own on
> board
> > staff. Otherwise a Rocky Mountaineer crew would
> > have to qualify on the territory so it was
> easier
> > to use UP engineers and conductors.
>
> UP crews do not operate Rocky.  One of the
> reasons Rocky was able to make an agreement with
> UP was the stipulation that Rocky use its own
> operating crews.  UP likes it since they have no
> involvement with equipment, crews, servicing. 
> Rocky provides all that for themselves, and all UP
> has to provide is the railroad and dispatchers. 
> BSB

Gotcha, makes sense. Thanks for the info!