Passenger Trains > FL: Martin County rejects Quiet Zones

The Martin County commissioners have rejected a plan that would have begun application for quiet zones along the Florida East Coast  / BrightLine corridor.  The issue has been especially contentious in East Stuart and Port Salerno where there are four crossings within a mile and a half. Port Salerno has a W3 sign post north of Seaward Street.  Residents complain the horns are almost continuous.  The railroad, for its part, would be happy to close several of these crossings, and offered to do so in the prep for BrightLine.

Enforcement of crossing rules is inconsistent in this area. It isn't unusual to see cars stopped on the tracks awaiting a turn signal light, or trucks racing through descending gates, 

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/martin-county/2025/03/12/martin-county-officials-say-no-to-quiet-zones-for-train-horns/81981311007/

 

In Florida, rejection of quiet zones would seem a good idea.

GenePoon Wrote:
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> In Florida, rejection of quiet zones would seem a
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Tell that to the Florida residents who are complaining about the horns then.  Good luck!

Tell the Florideedeedees  to get a clue about trains.

PHall Wrote:
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> Tell that to the Florida residents who are
> complaining about the horns then.  Good luck!

SP4360 Wrote:
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> Tell the Florideedeedees  to get a clue about
> trains.
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They're entitled, they don't have to. Just ask them.

GenePoon Wrote:
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> In Florida, rejection of quiet zones would seem a
> good idea.

Why? Isn't the majority of Florida residences almost deaf?

HotWater Wrote:
> Why? Isn't the majority of Florida residences
> almost deaf?
Huh? What? Who? Speak up so I can hear you.

 To me, the blat of the crossing horn's are worse than the train horns.
RB

You do have a point.

PHall Wrote:
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> They're entitled, they don't have to. Just ask
> them.

Train horns don't need to be so loud they are heard a mile(s) away in all directions, they should be mounted low, forward and downward to be effective at crossings. They should not be roof mounted and pointed in both directions.

Try an experiment: Mount some train horns on a vehicle and go out to the homes of politicians, rail managers and employees and sound them similar to crossings multiple times a day and night. See if they complain, then tell them to get over it.

Michael

Jack, at your age, you aren't deaf yet?

Victor Baird

HotWater Wrote:
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> Why? Isn't the majority of Florida residences
> almost deaf?

They don't care if the quiet zones get more fools killed as if there aren't enough of them.

Victor Baird

GenePoon Wrote:
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> In Florida, rejection of quiet zones would seem a
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wabash2800 Wrote:
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> Jack, at your age, you aren't deaf yet?
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> Victor Baird



Nope, not even close. Even after one and a half years in the Army, Headquarters, Division Artillery, 2nd Armored Division (Fort Hood, TX). But then, I live in Illinois and not Florida.



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> > Why? Isn't the majority of Florida residences
> > almost deaf?

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> > Victor Baird
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> Nope, not even close. Even after one and a half
> years in the Army, Headquarters, Division
> Artillery, 2nd Armored Division (Fort Hood, TX).
> But then, I live in Illinois and not Florida.


So, if we are going to generalize and say everyone in Florida is deaf, does that make everyone living in Illinois a crook?

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> > Nope, not even close. Even after one and a half
> > years in the Army, Headquarters, Division
> > Artillery, 2nd Armored Division (Fort Hood,
> TX).
> > But then, I live in Illinois and not Florida.
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> So, if we are going to generalize and say everyone
> in Florida is deaf, does that make everyone living
> in Illinois a crook?

Only the politicians!

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> > > Nope, not even close. Even after one and a
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> > > Artillery, 2nd Armored Division (Fort Hood,
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> > > But then, I live in Illinois and not Florida.
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> > So, if we are going to generalize and say
> everyone
> > in Florida is deaf, does that make everyone
> living
> > in Illinois a crook?
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> Only the politicians!


Hmm, I see a lot of videos of crazyness on Michigan Ave, or all over the burbs of people breaking into stores and stealing.   So you must all be like that, right?

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> > > > Artillery, 2nd Armored Division (Fort Hood,
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> > > > But then, I live in Illinois and not
> Florida.
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> > everyone
> > > in Florida is deaf, does that make everyone
> > living
> > > in Illinois a crook?
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> Hmm, I see a lot of videos of crazyness on
> Michigan Ave, or all over the burbs of people
> breaking into stores and stealing.   So you must
> all be like that, right?

Pretty much. Even when they are caught, nothing much happens to them, thus they go right back out and do it again.

GenePoon Wrote:
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> In Florida, rejection of quiet zones would seem a
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That should be everywhere, only reason why they're there is because of the crybabies we got in this country!

I dunno.

In Florida, red traffic signals are an optional "stop" for some drivers.  Around here, you never want to move instantly on a signal turning green, since 2-3 people are going to blow thru the red.

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> GenePoon Wrote:
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> That should be everywhere, only reason why they're
> there is because of the crybabies we got in this
> country!

Beautiful! You are so full of sh&t. Have you ever lived in an expensive house within 3 or 4 blocks of a major multi-track commuter railroad? Obviously not. On the three track former CB&Q commute line between Aurora and Chicago, the Burlington institute the "quiet zones", way back in the steam era, i.e. 1940s or earlier.