Passenger Trains > Extreme late #4 stabbed by Railrunners

Looks like the Southwest Chief train #4 is sitting South of the Albuqurque station waiting on a Southbound Rio Metro Regional Transit District Railrunner train!
Huge delays started last night when they had to set out a deadheading Metrolink car that had a stuck brake.

The train you speak of is also missing a Superliner Coach-Baggage car.  There is a Metrolink coach on the head end behind the power, the Coach-Baggage was removed from the rear.  It is going to be musical chairs between Kansas City and Chicago Saturday...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/25 18:02 by regalstream1516.

Thing is Railrunner always stabs 3 and 4 when they're late!

Posted from Android

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> Thing is Railrunner always stabs 3 and 4 when
> they're late!
>

And that’s how it should be.

Posted from iPhone

few passing tracks, they cannot advance?

dan Wrote:
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> few passing tracks, they cannot advance?

NMRX brought them to the new Broadway SDG, actually a well planned meet, looks like they were stopped for about 5 min As Iit crossed the Grande at 1800 and was back to speed at 1811.

Where is the new Broadway siding at?  I am not familar with it.

ATSF1129 Wrote:
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> dan Wrote:
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> > few passing tracks, they cannot advance?
>
> NMRX brought them to the new Broadway SDG,
> actually a well planned meet, looks like they were
> stopped for about 5 min As Iit crossed the Grande
> at 1800 and was back to speed at 1811.

SCAX3401 Wrote:
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> Where is the new Broadway siding at?  I am not
> familar with it.

Just north [RR East] of the Isleta Pueblo Station

 

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Currently running about 8 hours late. Just recently left KC towards La Plata.

Posted from iPhone

How do the crew situation work when 4 is so late to Fort Madison?  I was given to understand the engineer for 4 takes 3 back to Kansas City later that same day.  That won't work obviously if 4 is later than 3...or is there some ther arrangement?
Edit:  fat fingers



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/25 17:41 by a737flyer.

a737flyer Wrote:
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> How do the crew situation work when 4 is so late
> to Fort Madison?  I was given to understand the
> engineer for 4 takes 5 back to Kansas City later
> that same day.  That won't work obviously if 4 is
> later than 5...or is there some ther arrangement?


When did the Zepher go to Fort Madison!

Posted from Android



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/25 14:42 by ProAmtrak.

Your failure to plan properly does not create an emergency on my part.

Why does Amtrak assume every property owner (BNSF NMRX etc) should yield to it?

Posted from Android

community, pride,service, in line with the states goals, amtrak is also a good crew taxi

the chief has also helped bnsf maintain rail access to big geographic area should any mining or other development pop up

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> Your failure to plan properly does not create an
> emergency on my part.
>
> Why does Amtrak assume every property owner (BNSF
> NMRX etc) should yield to it?

Amtrak doesn't expect that. Train orders.com members, on the other hand...

          Some other arrangement, years ago the answer was 'of course there is. Now, doubtful and may not have even crossed anyones mind at Amtrak that there is going to be a problem. They go home at mid afternoon and their mind was not on any problems probably by 9:30 in the morning    
          There is already a letter on each vacant desk stating " Sorry for the inconvenience"   -   just fill in the date and train number.  Voila! problem taken care of.

I was able to catch the Chief when it came through Marceline running very very late! 

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,6011077

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> a737flyer Wrote:
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> > How do the crew situation work when 4 is so
> late
> > to Fort Madison?  I was given to understand
> the
> > engineer for 4 takes 5 back to Kansas City
> later
> > that same day.  That won't work obviously if 4
> is
> > later than 5...or is there some ther
> arrangement?
>
>
> When did the Zepher go to Fort Madison!
>
> Posted from Android

Fat finger mistake repaired...now could somene give an answer instead of a derisive crack?  Thanks in advance

i assume Ft madison  crews run to chi too, so the crew base there is capable of running either way? living there could be cheaper

a737flyer Wrote:
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> ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> > a737flyer Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > How do the crew situation work when 4 is so
> > late
> > > to Fort Madison?  I was given to understand
> > the
> > > engineer for 4 takes 5 back to Kansas City
> > later
> > > that same day.  That won't work obviously if
> 4
> > is
> > > later than 5...or is there some ther
> > arrangement?

If 4 is late Amtrak will cab an engineer from KC to Fort Madison. The inbound 4 engineer can either work west on his hours on 3  and be relieved enroute or can deadhead back on 3.
or in this case if 4 got there after 3 the deadhead from KC in the cab will take 3 west
Thats waht my Hogger friend at Amtrak tells me. 
MILW86A 

ProAmtrak Wrote:
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> Thing is Railrunner always stabs 3 and 4 when
> they're late!
>

Primary strategic rule of train dispatching:

• Never make a train that is on time late helping a late train.
• If the on time train can make it to the destination within recovery time, ok to help the late train.
• If the on time train can make it within Schedule Tolerance, ok to help the late train but don't make it a habit.

TAW