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Date: 08/01/19 09:31
Story on how Sydney removed trams from service
Author: ActionMike




Date: 08/02/19 07:28
Re: Story on how Sydney removed trams from service
Author: LTCerny

A story that sadly was repeated hundreds of times around the world.



Date: 08/04/19 14:28
Re: Story on how Sydney removed trams from service
Author: cchan006

LTCerny Wrote:
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> A story that sadly was repeated hundreds of times
> around the world.

Some cities chose to spend tremendous resources to build subway lines in their place, allowing cars and buses to coexist. San Francisco's subway under Market St. is one example, and they're still building the Third Street Subway. Funny how the surface line returned on Market St. with the F-Line.

The article mentions Melbourne keeping their trams unlike Sydney.

Excerpts:

As Graeme Davison relates in his book Car Wars, a succession of Australians studied traffic engineering in the US in the 50s, some under a scholarship sponsored by the Myer family, and brought back an evangelical commitment to urban freeways. And, as one engineer from Los Angeles invited to advise on Melbourne’s traffic future put it: “All large American cities that were beating traffic tangles were getting rid of trams.”

But there were protests on nearly every line as they were marked for closure. Retailers along tramlines were persuaded by the government campaigns that trams were causing congestion, only to find that freeing up space for cars helped destroy local shopping and promote out-of-town supermarkets.

“It was a very big con job,” Critchley says. “They just got convinced by what was going on overseas, what the Americans were doing ... It was the wrong decision. I think we’ve always regretted that.”


These excerpts place the blame on the U.S., which I found interesting. The merits of that blame can be argued forever, just like how people continue to disagree on the conspiracy behind National City Lines, Key System, and others.



Date: 08/04/19 15:21
Re: Story on how Sydney removed trams from service
Author: DKay

 
>
> The article mentions Melbourne keeping their trams
> unlike Sydney.
>
 Think the general concensus was that Melbourne streets were generally wider than inner Sydney streets.All cost over runs aside,it will be interesting to see how the Sydney system goes.I suspect in a few short years the population will be saying ,''how did we live without it ''.I doubt the business owners/operators in Sydney CBD George Street would be saying the same however.
Regards,DK



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