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Date: 09/16/22 06:42
MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Hi folks
MRS railroad is testing a new locomotive template on the tracks. A special template was mounted on a C44 and the train is running  with a couple of ES44 testing the clearance of the tracks that serves the ore mines. It looks a ES58ACi profile. Vale mine has a fleet of ES58ACi and MRS did a test with one of them years ago, but not on all tracks. The rumors say MRS will put the ES58s in the ore trains and move the AC44s to grain and cellulose ones. Wabtech produced three ES44 to MRS, but the rumors say they didn't like the model. They said the ES44 performance is too close to the AC44, so they will order something more powerfull. It is interesting to say that MRS as one SD80ACe testing too. Let's see what they will chose for the ore trains.
Here are some pics taken by friends.

1) The template train on the Jeceaba viaduct, in the "Ferrovia do Aço" ( Steel Railroad), the mainline for ore trains. Picture by Bruno Campos;
2 - 3) The template at Km 575 on the Paraopeba Line. Pictures by Paraopeba Railways group.

Pedro

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/22 06:46 by pedrop.








Date: 09/16/22 06:45
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: engineerinvirginia

Loading gauge template! Haven't seen one used for years!



Date: 09/16/22 09:58
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: zorz

Fascinating. That doesn't look like the ES58ACi loading gauge though, nor the SD80ACe, unless I'm missing something.



Date: 09/16/22 22:16
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: Ritzville

Interesting series Pedro!

Larry



Date: 09/17/22 04:33
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Yes, ES58 is about 1.5 meters longer than a AC44.
zorz Wrote:
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> Fascinating. That doesn't look like the ES58ACi
> loading gauge though, nor the SD80ACe, unless I'm
> missing something.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1




Date: 09/19/22 08:35
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: alamode

That sure looks like an Evolustion Series profile (on right). The ES58 radiator is more peaked - which is the one on the left in the photo.




Date: 09/19/22 09:57
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Very nice. The ES44 and AC44 made in Brazil has a different radiator profile. They are a bit curved as we can see in the pics from Cristiano Oliveira taken in Vale broad gauge system (Carajas rwy).
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alamode Wrote:
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> That sure looks like an Evolustion Series profile
> (on right). The ES58 radiator is more peaked -
> which is the one on the left in the photo.

Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/22 10:02 by pedrop.








Date: 09/19/22 13:26
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: zorz

pedrop Wrote:
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> Very nice. The ES44 and AC44 made in Brazil has a
> different radiator profile. They are a bit curved
> as we can see in the pics from Cristiano Oliveira
> taken in Vale broad gauge system (Carajas rwy).
> .
>
> alamode Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That sure looks like an Evolustion Series
> profile
> > (on right). The ES58 radiator is more peaked -
> > which is the one on the left in the photo.
>
> Posted from Android

Looking closer, I think this template is for the ES44ACi design which has a larger dual-fan radiator and air-to-air intercooler design. These units are used on the Rio Tinto line in Australia and are more capable of dealing with the excess heat with the larger radiator core.

The standard ES44AC has a much smaller radiator core than the AC4400CW (due to the 12cyl engine and separate intercooler). Maybe MRS is investigating similar units to get better performance in tunnels? 



Date: 09/19/22 13:30
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: alamode

841 is a C44-9WM - it is not an Evolution Series radiator



Date: 09/19/22 14:45
Re: MRS is buying something bigger than ES44 (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Yes, but this profile with rounded shape is the stardard shape in Brazil even for ES44 because the narrow tunnels and car dumpers.
alamode Wrote:
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> 841 is a C44-9WM - it is not an Evolution Series
> radiator

Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano, MG
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/22 14:46 by pedrop.




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