International Railroad Discussion > Australian CBH put an order with Wabtech for new units.

Wabtech will produce seventeen CM20ACi dual cab narrow gauge locomotives to CBH Group in Australia. Five units will be delivered in the first quarter of 2026, and twelve in the second quarter of 2026.
CBH also bought seven new standard gauge locomotives in December 2022, that will be delivered in November 2024. 
The news is from Wabtech and Revista Ferroviaria in Brazil
CBH new order with wabtech

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/23 16:28 by pedrop.

Nice order for Wabtech!

Larry

The 7x standard gauge units are from Progress, GT46C-ACe Gen2 model.

pedrop Wrote:
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> Wabtech will produce seventeen CM20ACi dual cab
> narrow gauge locomotives to CBH Group in
> Australia. Five units will be delivered in the
> first quarter of 2026, and twelve in the second
> quarter of 2026.
> CBH also bought seven new standard gauge
> locomotives in December 2022, that will be
> delivered in November 2024. 
> The news is from Wabtech and Revista Ferroviaria
> in Brazil
> CBH new order with wabtech

Very interesting. That sounds like a Wabtec competitor for the GT38AC, possibly using a GE prime mover instead of cummins like the previous units. Indonesia got a number of dual-cab meter gauge GEs which could be a similar design to the final product for CBH.

zorz Wrote:
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> Very interesting. That sounds like a Wabtec
> competitor for the GT38AC, possibly using a GE
> prime mover instead of cummins

Yes - will have an 8-cylinder FDL

alamode Wrote:
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> zorz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Very interesting. That sounds like a Wabtec
> > competitor for the GT38AC, possibly using a GE
> > prime mover instead of cummins
>
> Yes - will have an 8-cylinder FDL

Any idea why it is so low power? 

zorz Wrote:
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> Any idea why it is so low power? 

They need to keep the weight down.
These lines are likely laid with 47kg/m
rails, and the ballast isn't any better.
 

I'd think it would be more likely that they use a current 8L250 which could produce 3000 hp if required, a
6L250 would be good for 2300.

Out 

callum_out Wrote:
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> I'd think it would be more likely that they use a
> current 8L250 which could produce 3000 hp if
> required, a
> 6L250 would be good for 2300.
>
> Out 

With a 20 to 30 kph top speed who needs horsepower.
The bigger engine means more weight, bigger radiator
with more cooling water, and less fuel, but more fuel
consumption.

I should add that the current fleet consists of 20 narrow
gauge lightweight locomotives. Fourteen
weigh 105.5 tons with the QSK60 and 6 which weigh 132
tons and are equipped with the QSK78 engine.
The 5 standard gauge locomotives which weigh 145 tons,
and are equipped with the QSK78 engine.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/23 21:29 by SOO6617.