Western Railroad Discussion > Is this a Demo and if so what model

i caught this Blue and white along the Needles sub, does anyone know what model this locomotive is and if it is a Demonstrator for EMD. I checked the road number but came up empty handed. thanks in advance...Ken

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That would have been EMDX 9096, an SD60 model formerly leased by Oakway Corporation as part of GM's Lease Fleet. These units succumbed to the 2-year economic recession that hit the US in 2009 and 2010 and were all returned to their owner. Many units have been sold off now to other RRs and leasing organizations. When was this photo taken? and where? Looks like the Route 66 crossing east of Ludlow, CA.

Mr. MRL

NS has a whole slew of these in lease service, I'm thinking at least 50, if not 100 of them. In fact I saw a couple yesterday while out railfanning.

Chris
Ft. Wayne, IN
http://www.greenfrog.com/ChrisWehman.shtml

CJ Wrote:
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> NS has a whole slew of these in lease service, I'm
> thinking at least 50, if not 100 of them. In fact
> I saw a couple yesterday while out railfanning.
>

I believe Chris Toth maintains a list of units on lease to Norfolk Southern that showed the ex-Oakways in such service number less than 50, but there are a bunch and they're everywhere.

Edited to add: And here's a link to a recent post by Chris:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?2,2385398,2385499#msg-2385499

The 9096 is NOT listed as being on lease to NS, so somebody else must have dug it out of whatever storage line it was in.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/11 05:28 by toledopatch.

http://oakway.qstation.org/

Matthew
http://RRHotShots.com

I saw two in Gibson Yard in Omaha this past Thursday, along with a NS unit, but they were tucked back in
behind the yard office and quite a few cars (I didn't get the numbers).

MrMRL Wrote:
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> and where? Looks like the Route 66 crossing east
> of Ludlow, CA.
>
> Mr. MRL

Goffs,Ca., National Trail Highway (Route 66) Xing. Ludlow NTH Xing has cantilevered flashers and separate gates.

Bob

ATSF100WEST......Out

MrMRL Wrote:
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> That would have been EMDX 9096, an SD60 model
> formerly leased by Oakway Corporation as part of
> GM's Lease Fleet. These units succumbed to the
> 2-year economic recession that hit the US in 2009
> and 2010 and were all returned to their owner.
> Many units have been sold off now to other RRs and
> leasing organizations. When was this photo taken?
> and where? Looks like the Route 66 crossing east
> of Ludlow, CA.
>
> Mr. MRL
Actually, it was just EMD 9096, there was never an X after EMD on the former Oakway units. I believe if the road number is only 3 digits then it gets the X, but 4 digits just get EMD. There are still about 48 of the original 100 stored in Creston, IA.

toledopatch Wrote:

> The 9096 is NOT listed as being on lease to NS, so
> somebody else must have dug it out of whatever
> storage line it was in.

It is one of the ones stored at Creston, Iowa; maybe business has picked up enough for BNSF to lease them again.

Peter Arnold

One was trailing on the H MEMBAR4 yesterday through Western New Mexico/Eastern Arizona... GMTX 9050:

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Kodachromagnon Wrote:
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> Actually, it was just EMD 9096, there was never an
> X after EMD on the former Oakway units. I believe
> if the road number is only 3 digits then it gets
> the X, but 4 digits just get EMD. There are still
> about 48 of the original 100 stored in Creston,
> IA.


Hum, I thought they used to show up on the BNSF computers as EMDX, could be wrong though.

Mr. MRL

Thanks all for the help in identifying this unit. To answer a question in return; the photo was taken at Goff's/Route 66 crossing on my annual Bday trek to the Needles Sub November 29 2009

Yes, BNSF paperwork always showed the units as EMDX. As short of power as BNSF is right now, I wouldn't be surprised that they leased the remaining Oakway SD60's.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

funnelfan Wrote:
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> Yes, BNSF paperwork always showed the units as
> EMDX. As short of power as BNSF is right now, I
> wouldn't be surprised that they leased the
> remaining Oakway SD60's.


They're GMTX now, Ted.

Regardless of how it shows in a railroad's computer, it's got to have that "X" in the actual reporting mark, per AAR protocol.

toledopatch Wrote:
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> Regardless of how it shows in a railroad's
> computer, it's got to have that "X" in the actual
> reporting mark, per AAR protocol.

Isn't the AAR rule that if you are not a real railroad, you have to use a "X"?

Peter Arnold

Wow, I'm looking at the computer now, and there is no "X" on the reporting marks for the ex-Oakways. Every one I ever had in my consist ever since the change from Oakway had the blue card reading just plain EMD! But what do I know, I just work here and actually worked trains with these in the consist. I keep forgetting that all the foamers know more! They never had the "X" on any of my paperwork! I guess all the track and time I copied and all the GTB's and track warrants were incorrect when they were referred to as "EMD 90XX". But again, I just work here, what do I know?

pismopete Wrote:
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> toledopatch Wrote:
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> > Regardless of how it shows in a railroad's
> > computer, it's got to have that "X" in the
> actual
> > reporting mark, per AAR protocol.
>
> Isn't the AAR rule that if you are not a real
> railroad, you have to use a "X"?
>
> Peter Arnold

When they were Oakways the reporting marks were OWY 90XX, Oakway wasn't a real railroad. However, I still see a three letter pattern here.

Kodachromagnon Wrote:
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> Wow, I'm looking at the computer now, and there is
> no "X" on the reporting marks for the ex-Oakways.
> Every one I ever had in my consist ever since the
> change from Oakway had the blue card reading just
> plain EMD! But what do I know, I just work here
> and actually worked trains with these in the
> consist. I keep forgetting that all the foamers
> know more! They never had the "X" on any of my
> paperwork! I guess all the track and time I copied
> and all the GTB's and track warrants were
> incorrect when they were referred to as "EMD
> 90XX". But again, I just work here, what do I
> know?

I think one or two of the other posters are railroad employees also, and one is a BNSF employee. You need to relax, its only trains!

needles_sub Wrote:
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> Kodachromagnon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow, I'm looking at the computer now, and there
> is
> > no "X" on the reporting marks for the
> ex-Oakways.
> > Every one I ever had in my consist ever since
> the
> > change from Oakway had the blue card reading
> just
> > plain EMD! But what do I know, I just work here
> > and actually worked trains with these in the
> > consist. I keep forgetting that all the foamers
> > know more! They never had the "X" on any of my
> > paperwork! I guess all the track and time I
> copied
> > and all the GTB's and track warrants were
> > incorrect when they were referred to as "EMD
> > 90XX". But again, I just work here, what do I
> > know?
>
> I think one or two of the other posters are
> railroad employees also, and one is a BNSF
> employee. You need to relax, its only trains!

Okay, Thanks! Just trying to correct bad information. I know how everyone on TO is very relaxed and non judgemental when it comes to bad information-my bad!