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Western Railroad Discussion > Updated KCS train symbolsDate: 07/06/12 05:42 Updated KCS train symbols Author: florida581 The following are the Kansas City Southern train symbols for the U.S. part of their system. KCSM symbols are not included.
•Intermodal IATDA Atlanta Inman, GA (NS 219) - Wylie, TX daily IATDA2 Atlanta Inman, GA (NS 23E) - Wylie, TX 5x a week IBNSL Robstown, TX (BNSF Q CHIROB) - San Luis Potosí, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX 6x a week IDAAT Wylie, TX - Atlanta Inman, GA (NS 220) daily IDAAT2 Wylie, TX - Atlanta Inman, GA (NS 24E) 2x a week ILBNS Shreveport, LA (UP ILBNS) - Meridian, MS (NS 22G) daily IMYNS Monterrey, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Atlanta Inman, GA (NS 24E) 3x a week ISLBN San Luis Potosí, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Robstown, TX (BNSF Q ROBCHI) 6x a week IZAILC Meridian, MS (NS 225) - Shreveport, LA (UP ZAILC) daily IZLCAI Shreveport, LA (UP ZLCAI) - Meridian, MS (NS 226) daily •autorack ATLBN Toluca, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Robstown, TX (BNSF V ROBALT) as needed VBNLR Robstown, TX (BNSF V PEAROB) - Laredo, TX (KCS) as needed •Manifest MARSH Artesia, MS - Shreveport, LA daily MBMSH Beaumont, TX - Shreveport, LA 3x a week MBNNL Robstown, TX (BNSF H SVLLAR) - Nuevo Laredo, MEX (KCSM) 2x a week MCCSZ Corpus Christi, TX - Sanchez, MEX KCSM via Laredo as needed MCXSH New Orleans, LA (CSX) - Shreveport, LA daily MDASH Wylie, TX - Shreveport, LA daily MJASH Jackson, MS - Shreveport, LA daily MJASZ Jackson, MS - Sanchez, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX 4x a week MKCSH Kansas City, MO - Shreveport, LA 3x a week MKCSH2 Kansas City, MO - Shreveport, LA daily MKCVN Kansas City, MO - Venice, IL daily MKNLR Kendleton, TX - Laredo, TX as needed MLCSH Lake Charles, LA - Shreveport, LA 3x a week MLRBN Laredo, TX - Robstown, TX (BNSF H LARSVL) 2x a week MNSJA Birmingham, AL (NS 339) - Jackson, MS daily MSHAR Shreveport, LA - Artesia, MS daily MSHBM Shreveport, LA - Beaumont, TX 4x a week MSHCX Shreveport, LA - New Orleans, LA (CSX) daily MSHDA Shreveport, LA - Wylie, TX daily MSHKC Shreveport, LA - Kansas City, MO 3x a week MSHKC2 Shreveport, LA - Kansas City, MO daily MSHLC Shreveport, LA - Lake Charles, LA 3x a week MSHNS Shreveport, LA - Birmingham, AL (NS 340) daily MSHSZ Shreveport, LA - Sanchez, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX daily MSZCC Sanchez, MEX KCSM via Laredo - Corpus Christi, TX as needed MSZJA Sanchez, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Jackson, MS 3x a week MSZSH Sanchez, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Shreveport, LA daily MVNKC Venice, IL - Kansas City, MO daily LDQSH De Queen, AR - Shreveport, LA 5x a week LSHDQ Shreveport, LA - De Queen, AR 5x a week •Coal (All to or from Kansas City, MO) all run as needed -- BNSF power -- CKCAM / CAMKC Amsterdam, MO CKCEM / CEMKC Empire, KS (Pittsburg) CKCBO / CBOKC Bonanza, OK (Spiro) CKCSH Martin Lake, TX (Longview) via Shreveport loads CTXKC Martin Lake, TX (Longview) via Texarkana empties -- UP power -- CKCFL / CFLKC Flint Creek, AR (Gentry) CKCWE / CWEKC Welsh, TX (Cason) •Oil all run as needed OALBM Alliance, TX (BNSF) - Beaumont, TX OARJA Artesia, MS - Jackson, MS (CN) OARKC Artesia, MS - Kansas City, MO OBMAL Beaumont, TX - Alliance, TX (BNSF) OBRBNKC Baton Rouge, LA - Kansas City, MO (BNSF) OBRCPKC Baton Rouge, LA - Kansas City, MO (CP) OJAAR Jackson, MS (CN) - Artesia, MS OKCAR Kansas City, MO - Artesia, MS OKCBNBR Kansas City, MO (BNSF) - Baton Rouge, LA OKCCPBR Kansas City, MO (CP) - Baton Rouge, LA OKCNO Kansas City, MO - New Orleans, LA OKCSU Kansas City, MO - Nederland, TX (Sunoco) ONOKC New Orleans, LA - Kansas City, MO OSUKC Nederland, TX (Sunoco) - Kansas City, MO •Gas all run as needed QCCPQR Corpus Christi, TX - Queretaro, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QHOQR Houston, TX - Queretaro, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QKCKO Kansas City, MO - Korf, TX QKOES Korf, TX - Empalme Escobedo, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QKOKC Korf, TX - Kansas City, MO QKOQR Korf, TX - Queretaro, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QKOSL Korf, TX - San Luis Potosí, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QKOSV Korf, TX - MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QKOTU Korf, TX - MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QQRCCP Queretaro, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Corpus Christi, TX QQRHO Queretaro, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Houston, TX QQRKO Queretaro, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Korf, TX QSLKO San Luis Potosí, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Korf, TX QSVKO MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Korf, TX QTUKO MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX - Korf, TX •Steel coil all run as needed OESVL East St Louis, IL - Veals, TX OVLES Veals, TX - East St Louis, IL •Unit Cement all run as needed OADAL Ashdown, AR - Alliance, TX (BNSF / FWWR) OALAD Alliance, TX (BNSF / FWWR) - Ashdown, AR •Frac Sand all run as needed OALJA Alliance, TX (BNSF / FWWR) - Jackson, MS (CN) OALKC Alliance, TX (BNSF / FWWR) - Kansas City, MO (CP) OJAAL Jackson, MS (CN) - Alliance, TX (BNSF / FWWR) OKCAL Kansas City, MO (CP) - Alliance, TX (BNSF / FWWR) •Rock all run as needed Most rock trains are to / from Hatton, AR. Destinations vary. Loaded rock trains from Hatton would have the symbol OHT** •Grain all run as needed -origins (at loadouts or from interchange)- BV Brownsville, TX (KCSM empties) CB Council Bluffs, IA (UP via Kansas City) CD Corder, MO DL Delhi, LA KC Kansas City, MO (BNSF or CP) JA Jackson, MS (CN) JV Jacksonville, IL MM Mexico, MO SR Slater, MO -destinations- AD Ashdown, AR CCP Corpus Christi, TX DQ Dequeen, AR EL El Tule, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX HQ Ahorcado, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX HV Heavener, OK IH MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX LK Lake, MS MR Morales, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX MT Morton, MS MX Mexico City, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX MY Monterrey, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX QR Queretaro, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX RV Reserve, LA SJ San Juan Del Rio, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX SL San Luis Potosí, MEX KCSM via Laredo, TX VN Venice, IL VX Vicksburg, MS Andrew Edited 38 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/20 04:30 by florida581. Date: 07/06/12 06:07 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: kk5ol florida581 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I've compiled a list of updated KCS train symbols. > Q-JATL JACKSON, MS - TOLUCA, MEX (KCSM) via > LAREDO, TX (UP QJATLJ) > Q-TLSH TOLUCA, MEX (KCSM) - SHREVEPORT, LA via > LAREDO, TX (UP QTLSHJ) > Q-KCNL KANSAS CITY, MO - NUEVO LAREDO, MEX (KCSM) > via LAREDO, TX (UP QKCNLJ) > Q-SHKC SHREVEPORT, LA - KANSAS CITY, MO Added UP Symbols I could find. RailNet802, out Date: 07/06/12 06:08 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: RS12394 Thank you very much for this list. I sure needed it last week when I was shooting the Laredo line north and south of Victoria, Texas. One of the trains I shot was a southbound unit ballast train with the symbol of U-SHRV. What's the "RV?"
Joe McMillan Date: 07/06/12 06:26 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: florida581 RV stands for Reserve, LA. It's located just west of New Orleans.
Andrew Date: 07/06/12 06:41 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: RS12394 Thanks, but how would a southbound ballast train I shot in Victoria, Texas, en route to the Tex Mex have a destination symbol in Louisiana? There must be an error somewhere.
JMM Date: 07/06/12 06:51 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: florida581 RS12394 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks, but how would a southbound ballast train I > shot in Victoria, Texas, en route to the Tex Mex > have a destination symbol in Louisiana? There must > be an error somewhere. Not sure. I think BNSF and UP have a handful of orgin/destination codes that are the same as others on their systems. This may be the case with the ballast train you saw. Reserve is the only "RV" code on KCS that I know of. Andrew Date: 07/06/12 08:06 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: KB5WK http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kcsnotes/
You might join this Yahoo group KCSNOTES. And post your data there. A lot of good sources on this group. David Hawkins Plano, TX Date: 07/06/12 08:10 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: CSabresXr1 MQRKC is a freight from Mexico to KC. Mainly CP/ICE traffic goingto the CP in KC.
Ian Date: 07/06/12 08:19 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: florida581 KB5WK Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kcsnotes/ > > You might join this Yahoo group KCSNOTES. And post > your data there. A lot of good sources on this > group. > > David Hawkins > Plano, TX I already have. That group has been very helpful. I posted the symbols here on TO to see if I can get any more feedback from those who aren't members of KCSNOTES. Even though KCS is a Class 1, it's somewhat elusive because of its smaller size. Info about its operations are a bit harder to come by than the larger Class 1's. Andrew Date: 07/06/12 14:08 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: kd0086 Thank You, Now I can try to learn which train is which. When KCS trains come through Houston, TX, on UP's Glidden Sub sometimes they have all kinds of freight in those manifest trains, (Grain, Auto, Intermodal) you have to scratch your head sometimes. Sometimes there are so many KCS Trains on UP's Glidden Sub between West JCT (Houston)and KCS's Rosenberg Sub (Macaroni Line) if you do not know anything about railroading, you will think that line belongs to KCS.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/07/12 08:15 by kd0086. Date: 07/07/12 07:13 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: sums007 CSabresXr1 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > MQRKC is a freight from Mexico to KC. Mainly > CP/ICE traffic goingto the CP in KC. > > Ian I would imagine that QR is Queretaro, MX. Date: 07/07/12 09:11 Re: Updated KCS train symbols Author: tferk RS12394 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks, but how would a southbound ballast train I > shot in Victoria, Texas, en route to the Tex Mex > have a destination symbol in Louisiana? There must > be an error somewhere. > > JMM U-SHRV looks like an incomplete UP symbol (USHRVJ), not a KCS symbol. When KCS started operating trains via the rebuilt Rosenberg Sub, "RV" started showing up as both a south origin and south destination code in the UP system, regardless of the KCS origin/destination symbol. Speculation by a couple of UP folks was that the "RV" identified trains using the new route, vs. the symbols used via Flatonia, and that it was a quick fix in the UP system, possibly designating "Rosenberg-Victoria". For example, for quite some time, the former Jackson-Lazaro Cardenas intermodals I-JALZ/I-LZJA showed up in the UP system symboled IJARVJ/IRVJAJ. Ballast trains to/from the Rosenberg Sub during rebuilding often carried USHRVJ UP symbols. |