Western Railroad Discussion > Question: BNSF Crew Operations Klamath Falls to Stockto

How does BNSF handle its crews between Klamath Falls and Stockton? Turn at Keddie? Run through? Or is Stockton the crew change point at all? Anyway, if one of you kind folks would illuminate BNSF crew management, I'd sure appreciate it.

Don
Yreka, CA



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/12 14:59 by odub.

KFalls-Keddie
Keddie-Stockton

Crews stay in the motel in Quincy.

Thanks.

Don

Is Keddie the away from home terminal for both crew districts or are there any home crews there?

trainjunkie Wrote:
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> Is Keddie the away from home terminal for both
> crew districts or are there any home crews there?

I am 99% sure it is only an away from home terminal for employees...

Make that 100% sure.....Keddie/Quincy is only an away terminal.
I know....drove the yard van for 4 years........

DaveL

Same crews go the SP route when things go to pot on the route, but I missed the call three or four times so I don't know where they stay when detoured.
Man, I miss that run.

trainjunkie Wrote:
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> Is Keddie the away from home terminal for both
> crew districts or are there any home crews there?
Keddie is the away terminal for Stockton and K Fall's. It's been busy lately on the Gateway sub,with over a dozen in the last two day's. 7 today and oh...here come's another!

Edit;missed DaveL's response,he would know.

I forgot to mention that BNSF,has assigned ten new Conductor's to Klamath and ten more are in class right now for the K Fall's pool. One of TO's very own,work's out of K Fall's. Bill@ MP90 Gateway sub.

hiline Wrote:
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> I forgot to mention that BNSF,has assigned ten new
> Conductor's to Klamath and ten more are in class
> right now for the K Fall's pool. One of TO's very
> own,work's out of K Fall's. Bill@ MP90 Gateway
> sub.

20 new conductors?? This makes me think:

--some conductors are retiring.
--more lumber loads / manifest traffic as the economy improves
--more Bakken oil trains coming, to both the SF area, and Bakersfield (refinery down there is being rebuilt for Bakken oil).

Could we be on the cusp of a new, busy phase of the Inside Gateway?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/12 00:13 by coach.

coach Wrote:
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> hiline Wrote:
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> > I forgot to mention that BNSF,has assigned ten
> new
> > Conductor's to Klamath and ten more are in
> class
> > right now for the K Fall's pool. One of TO's
> very
> > own,work's out of K Fall's. Bill@ MP90 Gateway
> > sub.
>
> 20 new conductors?? This makes me think:
>
> --some conductors are retiring.
> --more lumber loads / manifest traffic as the
> economy improves
> --more Bakken oil trains coming, to both the SF
> area, and Bakersfield (refinery down there is
> being rebuilt for Bakken oil).
>
> Could we be on the cusp of a new, busy phase of
> the Inside Gateway?
Hi Coach. The first ten Conductor's have been working out of K Falls since April so next spring, some are most likely going to become new Engineers on the sub. Just like you stated, more manifest's,oil train's,grain and baretables are why there needed. On Monday we had nine come through between 5 am and 11 pm. Sunday we had three meets in Bieber,two of the SB's were hugh in a 4+3 configuration with mid train dpu's. One of the 4+3's held the main and stretched from the south switch foul point past the North switch,making it over 8000ft. It was the longest freight I've seen on the Gateway. Bill MP90 Gateway sub.

Do I hear that CTC will be coming soon?

mundo Wrote:
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> Do I hear that CTC will be coming soon?
Now that all but just a few miles of rail and ties have been replaced, BNSF need's to lengthen at least a couple more siding's to 8'000 ft. There is only two(Bieber ,Almanor) at 8000 ft,two at around 6700ft(Kephardt,Lookout) and the rest are 5000ft and shorter. That and CTC would diffidently increase the capacity,that is hopefully going to be needed. Three Northbounds,fleeting have came through Bieber already this Morning!

Looks like I'll have to come over for a visit soon, Bill.

Don

Glad to hear of all the traffic. Does anyone know what the grade at Quarry Road (crew change point) at Keddie is? It always looks quite steep on video and therefore not the best place to be stopping or starting 8000ft trains.

Thanks,

Bob

Bob5446 Wrote:
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> Glad to hear of all the traffic. Does anyone know
> what the grade at Quarry Road (crew change point)
> at Keddie is? It always looks quite steep on video
> and therefore not the best place to be stopping or
> starting 8000ft trains.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
Hi Bob. From Keddie, MP 202,it's around 1.5% to Mp 197,from there it decreases to about 1% to MP 194.5,were it flattens out. Bill. Oh yeah, I got every inch of every detail about the Gateway sub charted, mapped out and written down!

odub Wrote:
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> Looks like I'll have to come over for a visit
> soon, Bill.
>
> Don

Don, Please come on over for a visit when you get the chance. I've got some NEW spot's around scoped out, that need some attention. My work is dead right now so I'm free! Bill

I knew I could rely on you Bill! I keep on learning!

Bob

hiline Wrote:
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> mundo Wrote:
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> -----
> > Do I hear that CTC will be coming soon?
> Now that all but just a few miles of rail and
> ties have been replaced, BNSF need's to lengthen
> at least a couple more siding's to 8'000 ft. There
> is only two(Bieber ,Almanor) at 8000 ft,two at
> around 6700ft(Kephardt,Lookout) and the rest are
> 5000ft and shorter. That and CTC would diffidently
> increase the capacity,that is hopefully going to
> be needed. Three Northbounds,fleeting have came
> through Bieber already this Morning!

They just need to add CTC islands

You guys wait your turn, the Sioux City sub needs it more.