Western Railroad Discussion > SD70BBACe Hot From Brasil - New Flare

It ain't Friday but this is a "flare" that only the old UP could love..

From my friend Ililton Iglima
Sete Lagoas, MG Brasil

It ain't all crap down there !!!

Yukon Yeti

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At least the cab has decent windshields!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Does the back metal step area look a little bent,??
Not even on the road and they bent it. loll
yours snoopy

Very nice!

I think it is just an illusion. Look at the front one nearest to the trucks, it looks the same. Looks like the hand rail has a slight bend to it maybe for contour?

snoopy51 Wrote:
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> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
> Does the back metal step area look a little
> bent,??
> Not even on the road and they bent it. loll
> yours snoopy



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/15 06:21 by sp8192.

Looks like the trucks are 1/2 of a trimont!

Dave

Built in Brazil:

http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/mechanical/locomotives/emd-opens-brazilian-locomotive-assembly-site.html

The reason for the 8 axle configuration is that it's meter gauge. Since the traction motors are smaller than on standard gauge, more of them are needed to soak up the horsepower. Are these going to EFVM to replace the DDM45's?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/15 12:01 by CPR_4000.

Would there be any use of a 8 axle locomotive in the U.S.? That truck arrangement looks neat...

Jim Montague
IRVINE, CA
Train and Nature photo Art

I have often wondered if the 6000 HP locomotives would have more acceptable if they were on eight axles and ballasted up to whatever weight the extra two axles would allow.

It would look better on a longer SD80ACe frame.

Is EMD bringing back the tear drop windshield? I sure hope so!

Well according to this, http://www.progressrail.com/cda/files/4689664/7/SD70ACe-BB_ENG_A4.pdf The cab design is new since it has a slight angle in when viewing it from the front.

It would be interesting to see if the B-B truck concept would ever come back to US railroads.

MilwMike

IIRC, there were many Engineers who were railing against the upright windscreen because it allowed extraneous lights, reflections and shadows to impact on the Engineer's vision. A 'lay-back' windscreen does not have that effect.

Michael McInerney
Marion, South Australia,

csx8320 Wrote:
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> Is EMD bringing back the tear drop windshield? I
> sure hope so!


Dream on! We couldnt be that lucky.

CPR_4000 Wrote:
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> Are these going to EFVM to replace the DDM45's?

I can't confirm that as fact, but I assume these are being constructed for VLI / EFVM, which has been looking to replace their aging DDM45s. I believe they have 45 such units on order.

EMD is fine with the larger windshields it is the US railroads which want the cheaper, smaller rectangular glass which matches the same parts used on GEs. That way they only have to stock one size replacement for both manufactures.


csx8320 Wrote:
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> Is EMD bringing back the tear drop windshield? I
> sure hope so!

Posted from Windows Phone OS 7

The EMD and GE glass are not the same. The EMD window is both 1 inch taller and wider, either way cheaper than the old porkchops.

fbe Wrote:
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> EMD is fine with the larger windshields it is the
> US railroads which want the cheaper, smaller
> rectangular glass which matches the same parts
> used on GEs. That way they only have to stock one
> size replacement for both manufactures.
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> csx8320 Wrote:
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> > Is EMD bringing back the tear drop windshield?
> I
> > sure hope so!
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> Posted from Windows Phone OS 7

The horn looks to be a Leslie product. Good for them!

BelltuckyFoamductor Wrote:
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> The EMD and GE glass are not the same. The EMD
> window is both 1 inch taller and wider, either way
> cheaper than the old porkchops.
>
The thing is, most of the railroads that have widecab EMD power are going to have the porkchops around for many years to come. My experience with parts would tend to indicate that the cost of stocking the porkchop AND the new style glass will in the end eat up any perceived savings. It's one of those "can't see the forest for the trees" thing I fight all the time. The REAL cost savings in parts is in uniformity (fewer part numbers, less stock required) and reliability. Actual part cost ranks down the list. Example: I have 30 trucks. 10 have an AD9 air dryer #145.00 each, 10 with a Pure Air Plus dryer, $150.00 each, and 10 with an ADIP dryer $175.00 ea. I will have to stock one of each of the dryers for a total of $470. Now give me 30 trucks, all with the ADIP, $175.00 ea. BUT, I will only need to stock two, for a total of $350.00. THAT'S how you save money on parts, even if you buy the more expensive part.

Look at the size of that circuit board and the components on it!
Clarence