Western Railroad Discussion > Kansas is flat, don't you know (vol #3) Dwight, KS

Everybody says Kansas is flat as a pancake. Everybody. (snicker)

1. 2. & 3. UP 6735 slithers westward over a telephoto exaggerated sag between rural Morris County roads 1600 & 1700 west of Dwight, KS. This the ex-Rock Island GSR.

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One more: (Here’s some in your face flatness ;^)

4. The 6735 has risen up to photographer level.
(4 photos taken west of Dwight, KS on May 19, 2018)

Thanks for looking up & down!
Lance Garrels
santafe199

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I wonder if my favorite hill out of Hanston is still clogged with stored cars?

Out

Thanks for the fun photos of the undulating track Lance.

Larry

I think I've made pancakes that were proportionately about that flat............

I always love how the folks from the Plains always try to make their little hills sound big. Still flat as a billiard table.
 

For a course in heavy grades. See the Moline sub in southern Kansas. Some crazy stuff down yonder. Makes you kick yourself for not making it down there when it was Santa fe. I wish I had a time machine. I could spend weeks staying in Chanute and chasing all the different trains of the southern kansas division.


By the way. The local road switcher to Moline is back on a day schedule.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/18 11:41 by SKOChief.

To that Kansan railroader, it probably felt like he just crested Donner Pass.

Mr. MRL

“Simply put, our results show that Kansas is considerably flatter than a pancake,” the team concluded.
Study report here...

MrMRL Wrote:
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> To that Kansan railroader, it probably felt like
> he just crested Donner Pass.
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> Mr. MRL

Nah! Saluda Grade. The steep grades, along with those sharp curves, like Lance posted the other day, is why it takes so long to cross Kansas. ;^)
BB

The steepest grades between KC and Denver are right here in Ellsworth CO., KS with 1.50 being the steepest grade and this is on the KP across KS. upkpfan 

how steep is the bnsf's grade from brush to akron, co?  

66

Our claim to fame, Mt. Sunflower is taller than most of the Applacian Mts.
SD-45
 

moose Wrote: > ... pancakes that were proportionately about that flat...

Woof. Last time I had pancakes THAT lumpy was when I tried to make them from scratch. Total disaster...

;^)

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It may be near 1.5. But I bet it isn’t continuous for 3.2 miles like the moline sub.

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callum_out Wrote:
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> I wonder if my favorite hill out of Hanston is
> still clogged with stored cars?
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> Out

I passed through Larned on Wednesday.  On the K&O just west of Larned it was loaded with a long string of stored coal cars with faded red ends.  I'm thinking these may be some of those I saw last Winter stored with tall weeds grown around them near Hanston.  At that time they looked like permanent property for sure.

"Undulating." I don't know about others, but SP had a rules provision that cut some slack (bad pun) if a train slightly exceeded a speed limit in undulating terrain. I wonder if it made a difference whether the train was undulating up, down, or both at the time the official read his radar gun.
(PS I've had to inform folks that Nebraska isn't "flat like Kansas," and not because of Kansas.)

Lee_in_KC Wrote:
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> “Simply put, our results show that Kansas is
> considerably flatter than a pancake,” the team
> concluded.
> Study report here...

That is an interesting article. According to the article, among the ten states with the most flat land is Indiana.  However, the nation's steepest standard gauge, line-haul, adhesion wheel railroad grade was in Madison, IN.

Said grade in Madison is pretty much OS at the moment.

Out

callum_out Wrote:
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> Said grade in Madison is pretty much OS at the
> moment.
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Yes, that's why I used "was" instead of "is." 

Originally built by the Madison and Indianapolis Railroad, the line became part of the Pennsylvania Railroad.  It was last operated by the Madison Railroad in 1992.