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Date: 12/02/18 15:48
George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: bnsfsd70

This morning, I was able to track down the UP 1943 leading what will eventually turn into the Pres. George HW Bush funeral train. This was running out of Council Bluffs as the PCBWF1-02 and hit the Kansas City area in the late morning before heading south towards Parsons and Texas.

Photo 1: 
Rounding the curve west of Wolcott, KS on the Falls City Sub.

Photo 2: After the crew change at Neff, the train is pulling south through Sheffield at 12th St. in KCMO.

Thanks for looking,
- Jeff Carlson




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/18 16:05 by bnsfsd70.






Date: 12/02/18 16:00
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: JoCoLB

Photo One is outstanding for the gloomy weather you were up against. 



Date: 12/02/18 16:28
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: DFWJIM

Wow, UP pulled this train together very quickly.



Date: 12/02/18 17:05
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: bmarti7

Nice coverage Jeff.  No. 1 is outstanding for a gloomy day.

BB



Date: 12/02/18 17:09
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: tomstp

21 cars.



Date: 12/02/18 17:15
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: WMMike




Date: 12/02/18 17:25
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: MC6853

Hope 4141's in good enough shape to handle the train... Nothing like 10 long years of cold storage...



Date: 12/02/18 18:38
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: livesteamer

It would be my guess that UP4141 will have more attention, more inspections and more "brass hats" supervising the preparations.  They will have had at least 4 full days to get things ready.  Can't not imagine that the UP wants so much as a one minute delay to this train.  

Marty Harrison
Knob Noster, MO



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/03/18 09:48 by livesteamer.



Date: 12/02/18 18:55
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: JoCoLB

I'm sure there has been a long check list or "master plan" for bringing it out of mothballs after all these years. Hasn't it been fired up occuasionally in Little Rock just to stay on top of any possible problems? 



Date: 12/02/18 19:08
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: CSX602

JoCoLB Wrote:
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> I'm sure there has been a long check list or
> "master plan" for bringing it out of mothballs
> after all these years. Hasn't it been fired up
> occuasionally in Little Rock just to stay on top
> of any possible problems? 

Reportedly yes, has been getting regular service...   BTW, the unit was used in freight service 2006-2009 and for a while in 2011-2012.



Date: 12/02/18 19:49
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: bnsfsd70

Thanks, Larry.

Bad weather or not, this was a notable train that was worth getting out for, and there were PLENTY of others out photographing it as well.

- Jeff

JoCoLB Wrote:
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> Photo One is outstanding for the gloomy weather
> you were up against. 



Date: 12/02/18 19:51
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: jst3751

MC6853 Wrote:
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> Nothing like 10 long years of cold
> storage...

Nothing like posting incorrect information.



Date: 12/02/18 20:12
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: Coach_Key

CSX602 Wrote:
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> JoCoLB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm sure there has been a long check list or
> > "master plan" for bringing it out of mothballs
> > after all these years. Hasn't it been fired up
> > occuasionally in Little Rock just to stay on
> top
> > of any possible problems? 
>
> Reportedly yes, has been getting regular
> service...   BTW, the unit was used in freight
> service 2006-2009 and for a while in 2011-2012.

I’m sure this has been discussed before but why has 4141 been out of revenue service for most of its existence? Was it to keep the locomotive in excellent condition for the events that are unfolding currently?

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Date: 12/02/18 20:53
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: asheldrake

if given the option, that is what I would do....give it light duty...anticipating a big time performance for the person it honored......smart corporate decision making.    
  Arlen



Date: 12/02/18 20:55
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: czuleget

Basically Yes.
 



Date: 12/02/18 21:12
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: MC6853

jst3751 Wrote:
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> MC6853 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nothing like 10 long years of cold
> > storage...
>
> Nothing like posting incorrect information.


In storage since '09 and used shortly during 2011-2012... OK, 8 years in storage... God do I feel stupid! Where would we be without sharp-eyed folks like you?

Some of the rude sarcasm on this board is beyond uncalled for... Fine, correct my rough guess, fair enough, I got it wrong, but being a jerk about it is a tad unnecessary...



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Date: 12/02/18 23:55
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: Railfan2

I hear ya



Date: 12/03/18 05:02
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: LocoPilot750

It's the reason I rarely post anything on here anymore.

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Date: 12/03/18 05:17
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: Bob3985

Instead of guessing and bashing each other on here why don't we be glad and thankful to the UP for piecing this train together at the car shop in Council Bluffs and thankful to the Power Desk for getting this power together for the event that was planned many years ago. President George H.W. Bush 41 had a relationship with the UP as his campaign train ran throughout the rust belt on CSX with cars from the host railroad and a number of the cars from the UP. I will always remember that car that UP set up for the press with all the array of sattelite antennas on the roof. Union Pacific and the Bush family were involved in the dedication of his Library/Museum and now his final resting place. Thanks to my former employer for their involvement over the years.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY



Date: 12/03/18 05:45
Re: George HW Bush Funeral Train in KC
Author: OliveHeights

Good morning.  Anyone have info on UP 1943 and its train current location?



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