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Date: 10/01/19 21:25
NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: Greydog30

10-1-19
Norfolk Southern service has been suspended between Moberly and Kansas City, Missouri, due to debris (caused by heavy rains) striking and taking out the Grand River Bridge in Brunswick, Missouri.

Norfolk Southern personnel was there witness severity of the damage as it happen

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Date: 10/01/19 23:22
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: ts1457

Amazing. I think I would have stepped back from the track when the bridge girder sections started to topple.



Date: 10/02/19 00:50
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: funnelfan

Ouch! Brunswick was the former junction with the now long abandoned N&W branch to Council Bluffs, IA.

Ted Curphey
Cheney, WA



Date: 10/02/19 05:12
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: Spoony81

Dang it we left the truck on the other side of the river...

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Date: 10/02/19 05:25
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: tomstp

Hell of a thing to watch.



Date: 10/02/19 08:44
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: MILW86A

wonder if they are detouring over the BNSF.
MILW86A



Date: 10/02/19 10:28
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: rbenko

Wow - pretty wild video!!  Thanks for sharing.

Nitpicking a bit:  The cause of the bridge failure wasn't debris striking the bridge and taking it out - it was the immense pressure of the water backing up behind all the debris that was caught up against the bridge that eventually caused the bridge to fail.



Date: 10/02/19 10:42
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: ts1457

rbenko Wrote:
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> Nitpicking a bit:  The cause of the bridge
> failure wasn't debris striking the bridge and
> taking it out - it was the immense pressure of the
> water backing up behind all the debris that was
> caught up against the bridge that eventually
> caused the bridge to fail.

I am curious if in the rush to get the line back in service, NS will also come up with a replacement bridge which is less susceptible to forming debris dams.
 



Date: 10/02/19 12:22
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: mtzctrain

MILW86A Wrote:
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> wonder if they are detouring over the BNSF.
> MILW86A

I would guess they will route some of the traffic down to STL then up the Brooklyn District to Decatur, but that's just an assumption.
  -Caleb



Date: 10/02/19 12:43
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: Sneebly

This occured West of Moberly at Brunswick MO. Moberly is where the lines split from Kansas City one to Decatur and the other to St Louis.  My guess is they will detour on the UP from KC to St Louis or run on the KCS (ex C&A ex GM&O ex ICG ex CM&W ex GWWR) from Mexico Mo. to St Louis.

Sneebly



Date: 10/02/19 14:32
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: zfan

Sneebly Wrote:
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> This occured West of Moberly at Brunswick MO.
> Moberly is where the lines split from Kansas City
> one to Decatur and the other to St Louis.  My
> guess is they will detour on the UP from KC to St
> Louis or run on the KCS (ex C&A ex GM&O ex ICG ex
> CM&W ex GWWR) from Mexico Mo. to St Louis.
>
> Sneebly

Agree.  More likely this traffic would be routed over more parallel UP or KCS. 



Date: 10/02/19 16:27
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: memphisfreight

Did UP ever exercise their trackage rights on this line? 



Date: 10/02/19 17:50
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: burlingtonjohn

Detours on the BNSF Brookfield sub ...

Regards,
Burlington John



Date: 10/02/19 18:33
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: TTownTrains

So all that debris is just heading downstream toward another bridge.  Which one is next?

Bill G.
Tulsa, OK



Date: 10/02/19 19:23
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: DWitte

TTownTrains Wrote:
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> So all that debris is just heading downstream
> toward another bridge.  Which one is next?
>
> Bill G.
> Tulsa, OK
Next bridge is at Glasgow across the Missouri. The bridge material likely won't make it far before it sinks and given the winding course of both the Grand River and the Missouri I would think that the wood debris would end up on the bank of the Grand before it hits the Missouri. Just my thought from looking at google maps.

Duane Witte
Holt, MO



Date: 10/03/19 03:35
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: JPB

Interestingly NS Service Alert of 10/1/19 said bridge outage was due to a barge strike but on 10/2/19 a Service Alert update said it was a debris strike that led to the bridge being swept away.

From 10/1/19: http://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/shipping-tools/shipping-news-and-alerts/grand-river-bridge.html
From 10/2/19: http://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/service-alerts/service-alert---brunswick--missouri---update.html



Date: 10/03/19 13:01
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: wister6813

Update on the debris moving downstream in the Missouri River. The debris is  not expected to cause additional damage.  

http://www.newstribune.com/news/local/story/2019/oct/03/railroad-debris-floats-downstream-through-area/798044/



Date: 10/04/19 05:04
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: RodneyZona

Final run of the remaining N&W RR passenger train service between KC and St. Louis with stops in Brunwicks and Moberly, MO,  The City of Kansas City, formerly the City of St. Louis, was made on March 17, 1969 which is 50 years ago this past March 17.
 



Date: 10/04/19 13:15
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: ts1457




Date: 10/28/19 04:40
Re: NS bridge Grand River Brunswick, MO 10-1-19
Author: aburton07




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