Western Railroad Discussion > Possible changes in Cheyenne

I had heard from a couple of friends that the railroad will be abolishing all but one switch engine and close the yard tower this next month.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY

Just like the subs North of LA, who needs switch engines when the road crews handle the pick ups and set outs. Give it a month
and they'll be working industries en route, PSR you know.

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Gosh Bob, maybe UP wants to get out of the Railroad business, and go back to covered wagons ? 

I have seen a lot of empty well cars on UP trains headed west.

UP westward train this morning on the sunset route had a couple dozen empty well cars tacked onto the end of an autorack train. unusual.

Huh? I thought Asia was desperate for empty containers? 
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UP doesn’t want any business but bulk commodities that are picked up at point A. and delivered to point B.
If the Class Ones don’t watch it they are going to have Government regulation up their collective ass again. Not that it is not needed, PSR cultists are out to suck the life out of the Industry and to hell with the consequences.

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UP 70 cars isn't enough for them at one one time  that is why bnsf is doing sand trains to utah on the moffat and up has  a weekly 6 car train to Craig colo

According to a source some of the work MAY be moved to a Colorado location north of Denver...

Early clue: the IOACY symbol was changed back to IOANP.

Allen

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The Ports of LA and Long Beach need empty well cars ASAP. UP will move them on auto trains if they have to.

Allen

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Interesting information Bob!  Maybe the "thinkers" in Omaha decided to shutter Cheyenne when they reopened the east hump at North Platte.  I think some of the block swapping from that decision moved to Cheyenne, so maybe it's going back to North Platte.

Pete
Clio, California

Hey those IOANP guys can do the Denver setout before tieing up! When does this all quit?

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callum_out Wrote:
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> Hey those IOANP guys can do the Denver setout
> before tieing up! When does this all quit?
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Rich, lets see if UP decides to have the IOANP set out the Denver well cars/TOFC at Green River, then tack them on the rear of the MGRNY for Denver. Would make a classic PSR train...

Allen

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Didn't know there was a Green River to North Yard train, learn something every day, thanks for the update. 

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callum_out Wrote:
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> Didn't know there was a Green River to North Yard
> train, learn something every day, thanks for the update. 

They are running Roseville to Green River and Green River to Roseville manifests now as well, instead of Roper or Ogden trains. I'm guessing Green River is block swapping to make outbound trains or pickups in both directions.

This is unforntunate to hear. With the refinery changing over to renewable diesel production, they are going to have a much higher demand for rail service. Feedstocks in, produced renewable diesel out to California. Still quite a few quarters until start up, but hopefully that would change UPs mind to have more local operations.

kyrasmus Wrote:
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> This is unforntunate to hear. With the refinery
> changing over to renewable diesel production, they
> are going to have a much higher demand for rail
> service. Feedstocks in, produced renewable diesel
> out to California. Still quite a few quarters
> until start up, but hopefully that would change
> UPs mind to have more local operations.

UP will either give the business to BNSF or tell em to truck it. UP DOESN’T. WANT. BUSINESS.

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ble692 Wrote:
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> callum_out Wrote:
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> > Didn't know there was a Green River to North
> Yard
> > train, learn something every day, thanks for
> the update. 
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> They are running Roseville to Green River and
> Green River to Roseville manifests now as well,
> instead of Roper or Ogden trains. I'm guessing
> Green River is block swapping to make outbound
> trains or pickups in both directions.

Classic PRECISION Scheduled Railroading:  "This week, we will do it this way"....  Three days later:  "Oops, that didn't works so well, let's try this ridiculous stunt"... etc, etc, etc.  The only thing precise at the UP these days are precisionly stUPid decisions!

Every weekend, senior UP management must have a huge party, get really smashed, and come up with that next weeks operating plans!

How do you build a bigger crew base in Green River? From a train handling persepctive it might make sense but the available
work force is going to be tough. Oh well, it's the UP, changes usually only last a few days, still waiting for a mega-yard at Fleta.

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callum_out Wrote:
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> How do you build a bigger crew base in Green
> River? From a train handling persepctive it might
> make sense but the available
> work force is going to be tough. Oh well, it's the
> UP, changes usually only last a few days, still
> waiting for a mega-yard at Fleta.

Cut enough jobs in other places so crews are forced to work out of Green River.