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Western Railroad Discussion > Potentially a powerful winter weather for the westDate: 09/30/21 11:50 Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: czuleget We have a potential first cold winter storm to hit the western United States a week from this Sunday, with heavy snow and cold weather on YouTube. According to POW Weather. Followed by other fronts.
Posted from iPhone Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/21 12:08 by czuleget. Date: 09/30/21 12:01 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: JDLX Waiting for someone to ask if the rotaries are fired up and ready to go in 3……2…….1………
Jeff Moore Elko, NV Posted from iPhone Date: 09/30/21 12:11 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: MacBeau Cold weather belongs on YouTube, let them deal with it. <GRIN>
—Mac czuleget Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > with heavy snow and cold weather on YouTube. Date: 09/30/21 12:28 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: 462pacific All I can say is ...BRING IT ON and the more the better.
Date: 09/30/21 12:33 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: koloradokid 462pacific Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > All I can say is ...BRING IT ON and the more the > better. Careful, you might get what you wish for!!! Robert Date: 09/30/21 12:44 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: radar Predicting any weather a week away and expecting it to be a reliable forecast is nonsense. The state of the art isn't there yet. You might as well flip a coin.
Date: 09/30/21 12:59 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: inrdjlg But look at all the increased viewer and listener ratings, advertisements, and marketing you can get, make, and do in the meantime!!
Date: 09/30/21 14:01 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: DLM The "Western United States" is a very large area. So all of California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Nevada, Colorado,Wyoming, New Mexico, and Arizona will be getting a major snow storm?
Date: 09/30/21 14:42 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: HotWater DLM Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > The "Western United States" is a very large > area. So all of California, Oregon, Washington, > Idaho, Montana, Utah, Nevada, Colorado,Wyoming, > New Mexico, and Arizona will be getting a major > snow storm? I'm sure that they are all really hoping so, what with the extreme drought the last many years. Date: 09/30/21 14:56 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: icancmp193 radar Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Predicting any weather a week away and expecting > it to be a reliable forecast is nonsense. The > state of the art isn't there yet. You might as > well flip a coin. Well, first you must give the storm a name! :-) TJY Date: 09/30/21 15:30 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: Lackawanna484 I'm sure many fire fighters and residents of fire zones would welcome a foot of snow.
Posted from Android Date: 09/30/21 15:40 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: TCnR NOAA is moving towards La Nina this time, haven't really decided what that means for me. Here's a link to a past conditions table that should show a comparable year, I always compare to the 64/65 storms that hit the Cascade route and also the NWP. In general the storms go further north depending on the Ocean temps, or something like that:
https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php Here's their discussion: https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.shtml Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/21 16:01 by TCnR. Date: 09/30/21 17:17 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: czuleget This storm is originating off Japan and is currently a typhoon as of now. the storm like many in the western Atlantic head north then east. once around Alaska, It shows a big dip in the jet stream along the west coast next weekend bring in the weather.
Date: 09/30/21 18:50 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: WAF JDLX Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Waiting for someone to ask if the rotaries are > fired up and ready to go in > 3……2…….1……… > > Jeff Moore > Elko, NV > > Posted from iPhone LOL. Yup, every snow Date: 09/30/21 19:06 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: WW A strong La Niña event almost always means a dry winter for the SW United States, an area already in serious drought. It also usually means a wet winter in the Pacific Northwest and the Northern Rockies. What is tricky to predict is both the strength and the longevity of a La Niña event. An area that can be strongly affected one way or another by the strength of a La Niña event runs from the Pacific Coast eastward to about the Front Range of the Rockies between the latitude of about 40° to 42° North--in the Rockies, for example, from about central Colorado through central Wyoming. That "strip" can fall between the drier weather pattern to the south or the wetter pattern to the north, depending on the strength of the La Niña event.
The various winter forecasts that I've seen from both government and private meteorological sources indicate that this may be a complicated winter weather year for the U.S. Most agree on a significant La Niña event, and, in the rest of the country a prediction of average to above average precipitation over much of the central and northeastern states. Much of the central part of the country looks to be colder than normal. We'll see if those forecasts pan out. One final note: typically, the onset of a major early winter storm in most of the West is not necessarily a harbinger of a brutal winter ahead. Similarly, a long, warm, dry fall does not necessarily portend a mild winter. In my experience of living in the Rockies over several decades, some long, mild autumns were sometimes followed by brutally long, cold winters. Date: 09/30/21 21:52 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: bradleymckay Many more factors involved than just La Nina. La Nina doesn't guarantee a dry winter in CA, just like El Nino doesn't guarantee a wet winter. The MJO (Madden-Julian Oscillation) and the Arctic Oscillation are factors. The have been cases when the AO, in a persistent strong negative phase, cancels out an La Nina. It depends where the long wave through sets up.
The La Nina does not look all that strong and there are indications it will be gone by January. Allen Posted from Android Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/21 21:55 by bradleymckay. Date: 09/30/21 22:04 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: bradleymckay Another thing to watch for: if Siberia experiences a colder October than normal (with periods of snow) it's an indicator of an strong/active west to east polar jet stream, which would be a good thing for California.
Allen Posted from Android Date: 09/30/21 22:29 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: callum_out Had the heater on coming back from Vegas this evening.
Out Date: 09/30/21 22:33 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: bradleymckay DLM Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > The "Western United States" is a very large > area. So all of California, Oregon, Washington, > Idaho, Montana, Utah, Nevada, Colorado,Wyoming, > New Mexico, and Arizona will be getting a major > snow storm? According to the European weather model the central Rockies will have a significant winter type storm on 10/9, 10/10 and 10/11. Allen Posted from Android Date: 09/30/21 22:36 Re: Potentially a powerful winter weather for the west Author: TCnR Looking at that attached matrix it's pretty obvious that not every winter is the same.
Good info about the Artic conditions, have to check it out. |