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Date: 01/13/22 10:38
Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: callum_out

BLE/SMART has announced that they are polling the employees and if 2/3 of the BNSF employees under Union agreements
approve they are going to walk over the new BNSF attendance policy. That would bring up the interesting standoff between
the pro-Union Biden administration and the government role in the implementation of the Taft-Hartley action. Is popcorn on
sale somewherw?

Out 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/13/22 10:39 by callum_out.



Date: 01/13/22 10:45
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: PHall

callum_out Wrote:
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> BLE/SMART has announced that they are polling the
> employees and if 2/3 of the BNSF employees under
> Union agreements
> approve they are going to walk over the new BNSF
> attendance policy. That would bring up the
> interesting standoff between
> the pro-Union Biden administration and
> the government role in the implementation of the
> Taft-Hartley action. Is popcorn on
> sale somewherw?
>
> Out 


Popcorn is not available due to supply chain problems...



Date: 01/13/22 10:50
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: dpc37

I say we shut the hole thing down the railroads want to cut jobs look at the
money we will save by shutting down all the railroads for a day or two.



Date: 01/13/22 10:56
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: FECgp40

Does anyone know the basic details of the new BNSF attendance policy?

Posted from Android



Date: 01/13/22 11:05
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: DevalDragon

FECgp40 Wrote:
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> Does anyone know the basic details of the new BNSF
> attendance policy?

It's a point system that limits how often and when unionized employees can mark off.



Date: 01/13/22 11:51
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: callum_out

You gete 30 bad points and missing a call is like 15 points, so you accrue them and doesn't seem like an easy way to erase them.
So you hit 30, you get whatever punishment that entails and then your limit drops to 15 and starts over. You hit 15 and reset to 15
and you make that you're gone.

Out



Date: 01/13/22 11:54
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: Pacific5th

FECgp40 Wrote:
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> Does anyone know the basic details of the new BNSF
> attendance policy?
>
> Posted from Android

i posted about it a few days back https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,5398057. But basically unscheduled employees are absolutely screwed. If you have no days off you used to be able to take 5 weekdays and 2 weekends off each month. If you did that you would be fired in 5 month or so under this new system. Just taking every other Wednesday off starting next month would have you fired by next March. 



Date: 01/13/22 11:56
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: MrMRL

callum_out Wrote:
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> BLE/SMART has announced that they are polling the
> employees and if 2/3 of the BNSF employees under
> Union agreements
> approve they are going to walk over the new BNSF
> attendance policy.
> ...
> Out 


As a potentially interested party, I'd love to learn where this supposed "announcement" is. Kinda serious discussion if this is just second or third hand "lobby talk".

~ Mr. MRL



Date: 01/13/22 12:03
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: thatguy

PHall Wrote:
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> callum_out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BLE/SMART has announced that they are polling
> the
> > employees and if 2/3 of the BNSF employees
> under
> > Union agreements
> > approve they are going to walk over the
> new BNSF
> > attendance policy. That would bring up the
> > interesting standoff between
> > the pro-Union Biden administration and
> > the government role in the implementation of
> the
> > Taft-Hartley action. Is popcorn on
> > sale somewherw?
> >
> > Out 
>
>
> Popcorn is not available due to supply chain
> problems...

Good thing I stockpiled popcorn when it was available

Posted from Android



Date: 01/13/22 12:23
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: callum_out




Date: 01/13/22 12:24
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: Milw_E70

MrMRL Wrote:
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> As a potentially interested party, I'd love to
> learn where this supposed "announcement" is. Kinda
> serious discussion if this is just second or third
> hand "lobby talk".

Emails have gone out from the GC and LCs this morning, it's the real deal.



Date: 01/13/22 12:27
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: Lackawanna484

Ble692 posted this earlier. From the BLE site


https://www.ble-t.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=13515

Posted from Android



Date: 01/13/22 12:53
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: HardYellow

A picture is worth a 1000 words...




Date: 01/13/22 13:02
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: MrMRL

Appreciate the links and info folks. This news/story is moving so fast at the moment it's hard to hang on. Appears that both major US Rail Labor Unions have now made their intentions public knowledge.

Mr. MRL ~ hang onto your butts....



Date: 01/13/22 13:09
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: callum_out

And hanging onto your butts, the two unions have agreed on anything since they quit using firemen!

Out 



Date: 01/13/22 13:12
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: wyeth

FECgp40 Wrote:
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> Does anyone know the basic details of the new BNSF
> attendance policy?
>
> Posted from Android

Now don't quote me on this as I just heard it second hand from a union person and I have not calculated it myself, but he said that this new attendance policy only allows for 27 layoff days a year for a person in "Unassigned Service" (that is, operating personnel who are typically on call 24/7 and do not have assigned rest days (ie extraboards, road pool crews, etc - ie, most union railroad operating personnel)).  Now, maybe this was figured using an assumption that one would layoff only on HID (High Impact Days, defined by the carrier as weekend days (including Fridays), holidays, or any day that has a history of more people laying off (such as the Superbowl, Halloween, etc)).  HID days will deduct more points off of your status than ordinary weekdays (Monday - Thursdays).  This would compare to the average person who gets approximately 104 days off a year (crudely computed as 56 weeks X 2).



Date: 01/13/22 13:14
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: oneblock

Every terminal on the system one hundred percent of the employees will have FMLA.



Date: 01/13/22 13:18
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: callum_out

To wyeth's crude calculation, you might as well throw in holidays for the average person because your unassigned
rail sure doesn't get them off.

Out 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/13/22 14:33 by callum_out.



Date: 01/13/22 14:28
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: MILW-E78

We could all take some of our PLD or float VAC days off so we don't get too many points. Oh wait, that request is denied as well, as every terminal has a manpower shortage. We can't even take our paid time off when we want to, so just plan on being available 365 days a year. It's a joke anymore 
 



Date: 01/13/22 15:02
Re: Hi-Viz and the Union reaction
Author: rev66vette

HardYellow Wrote:
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> A picture is worth a 1000 words...
LOL!! Love it!!



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