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Date: 12/17/07 17:31
Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: Indecline

Today, 12-17-07, the loading started for the two former Grand Canyon Steam engines that are going from Hood River, OR to Alamosa, CO. It was wet and dark today and it took a while for #18 to get loaded on the flat car.








Date: 12/17/07 17:33
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: Indecline

A few more of the loading process.








Date: 12/17/07 17:37
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: Indecline

#18 loaded on the flat car. I didn't stick around to see the tenders loaded, they appeared to have some problems setting up #18 and I was bored out of my mind after waiting so long for something to happen and I really had other things to do.

I hated to see the steamers go as I spent a lot of volunteer time on #18 this summer working to help make it operational. However, it is good to see that they will go to a new home where they may get some use!

Dan






Date: 12/17/07 19:05
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: 90mac

What steam is replacing 18 & 20???
90MAC



Date: 12/17/07 19:24
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: Macster

Nothing. Mt. Hood will continue to run it's passenger service and dinner trains as scheduled but it will not include Steam in it's future because of high fuel costs.

Brian



Date: 12/17/07 23:54
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: 90mac

Macster Wrote:
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> Nothing. Mt. Hood will continue to run it's
> passenger service and dinner trains as scheduled
> but it will not include Steam in it's future
> because of high fuel costs.
>
> Brian


I'm glad I rode it behind 18 & 20 back 1997.
TAH



Date: 12/18/07 02:31
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: drgwAZ1986

90mac Wrote:
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>
>
> I'm glad I rode it behind 18 & 20 back 1997.
> TAH

Think you mean 29 there... 20 has not ran since 1960, if not before



Date: 12/18/07 07:48
Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Red Carpet Awaits in CO!
Author: cozephyr

Alamosa and the San Luis & Rio Grande RR will have the red carpet out for the ex-LS&I 2-8-0's arrival! Hopefully, the steam engines will like the drier climate around Alamosa, CO. Bring them on!

Thanks for the wonderful coverage showing their Hood River, Oregon, departure.





Date: 12/18/07 07:59
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: CPRR

Macster Wrote:
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> Nothing. Mt. Hood will continue to run it's
> passenger service and dinner trains as scheduled
> but it will not include Steam in it's future
> because of high fuel costs.
>
> Brian

And fuel is cheaper in Colorado?



Date: 12/18/07 09:16
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: winchester

CPRR Wrote:
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> Macster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nothing. Mt. Hood will continue to run it's
> > passenger service and dinner trains as
> scheduled
> > but it will not include Steam in it's future
> > because of high fuel costs.
> >
> > Brian
>
> And fuel is cheaper in Colorado?
No, they just have deeper pockets.



Date: 12/18/07 09:29
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: mikel

It's ironic how far these engines traveled from the GCRR in Arizona, all the way to Mt. Hood, OR and now they're coming to Alamosa, CO, a few hundred miles from whence they came :)

I hope the SL&RG RR can come up with a covered storage place for these engines and not let them sit outside in the elements.

Mike



Date: 12/18/07 10:09
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: NDHolmes

There's a new shop in the works for Alamosa - apparently it's still waiting on some of the permits to come through. So, my guess is that it's likely the steamers will get covered storage (don't know the details of what the SLRG has planned), but they are steam engines - most spend their entire lives outside, except for maintenance. Iowa Pacific is also in the car repair business, so the shop will likely also be used for that purpose, as well as for maintaining the road's diesels. Regardless, they'll be well cared for, and at least 18 will see regular service, along with SLRG 1744.



Date: 12/18/07 12:20
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: TopcoatSmith

They have taller girls in Alamosa too !


TCS - a tilt-cab hook, would've liked that for the slack time (zzzzzzzz)



Date: 12/18/07 12:36
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: wigwagfan

CPRR Wrote:
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> And fuel is cheaper in Colorado?

My guess is something to do with that nasty grade that the Mount Hood Railroad has out of Hood River. When I photographed the steam engine on its second-to-last day of operations in August it was only pulling three cars and a caboose.

In comparison when I rode the train (albeit with diesels) there were usually six or seven coaches plus caboose, in July (OK, it was "Day Out with Thomas") and again in October.



Date: 12/18/07 12:43
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: Indecline

TopcoatSmith Wrote:
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> TCS - a tilt-cab hook, would've liked that for the
> slack time (zzzzzzzz)


That's exactly what the operator was doing! ;)



Date: 12/18/07 14:05
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: NDHolmes

TopcoatSmith Wrote:
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> They have taller girls in Alamosa too !

And that's why we appreciate CZ's photography - it always has such nice scenery. :)

What's the grade out of Hood River, length and percentage-wise? Just wondering how it compares to La Veta.

Nathan
http://www.drgw.net



Date: 12/18/07 23:22
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: burlingtonjohn

Amazing. LS&I to Arizona to Oregon to Colorado. Highball!

Regards,
Burlington John



Date: 12/19/07 16:58
What is the route to Alamosa?
Author: grande473

This is just for a railfan alert along the way.



Date: 12/19/07 17:07
Re: What is the route to Alamosa?
Author: Indecline

As of right now - the engines are still sitting in Hood River - someone has been doing some welding / cutting most of the day. I thought the UP local would pick them up today, but that didn't happen.



Date: 12/20/07 08:56
Re: Former Grand Canyon's #18 & 20 Loaded up Today
Author: jackpot

Three percent grade on LaVeta pass, and it ain't short, neither. Gotta be more of a hill than that climb to Parkdale--or at least comparable.

wigwagfan Wrote:
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> CPRR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And fuel is cheaper in Colorado?
>
> My guess is something to do with that nasty grade
> that the Mount Hood Railroad has out of Hood
> River. When I photographed the steam engine on
> its second-to-last day of operations in August it
> was only pulling three cars and a caboose.
>
> In comparison when I rode the train (albeit with
> diesels) there were usually six or seven coaches
> plus caboose, in July (OK, it was "Day Out with
> Thomas") and again in October.



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