Steam & Excursion > Great Northern No. 2584.....Who Owns Her?!

Okay so this has been bugging me for a while now.

If anyone has any sort of information or even rumors, who is the official owner of the Great Northern No. 2584 in Havre, MT. I've heard everything from the city of Havre to BNSF themselves and I was hopping if anyone here can shed some light. I took these photos as I was passing through town on my was to my new job for the BNSF in Glasgow, MT. Thanks!

Cheers,

Brakeman_Phil

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THAT is a badass locomotive! Interesting to note that the GN went through a
mondernization effort on some of their bigger locomotives including roller bearings
on all axles.
Thanks for sharing!

It certainly is. One of the things I would like to see, well more like hear, is this whistle on steam. It's looks to cool and I'm sure it has a very unique sound that says "I'm a Great Northern Steam Engine".

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what does the plaque say, i have of pic of it somewhere

Whoever owns it, it is time for a re-paint. Rust is starting to form.

I don't remember seeing one, but I wasn't exactly looking and was in a bit of a hurry. Had to get to Glasgow and I wanted to get there before nightfall.

dan Wrote:
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> what does the plaque say, i have of pic of it
> somewhere

Not of any help.

-John

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I would say call up the local parks & rec department, and I bet they will know. All else fails the city or county assessor should have a list of property on the books.

call up steaming stevie didn't he look at it when 261 price tag went north of the polar express route

Don't forget citys don't own anything. Its the people in the city that own it jointly.
I have to point this out about the CB&Q 710 in Lincoln a couple times a year.
Steve

I believe the city of Havre is the owner and RR does some cosmetic work. I was told by one of the car foreman that it has a cracked boiler. It was involved in a serious rear end collision Aug 9, 1945 at Michigan, ND resulting in the loss of 34 lives. 2584 was on first No. 1 which was standing and struck by second No. 1 with the 2588.

blackhillshogger Wrote:
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> I believe the city of Havre is the owner and RR
> does some cosmetic work. I was told by one of the
> car foreman that it has a cracked boiler. It was
> involved in a serious rear end collision Aug 9,
> 1945 at Michigan, ND resulting in the loss of 34
> lives. 2584 was on first No. 1 which was standing
> and struck by second No. 1 with the 2588.

I just read on greatnorthernempire.net that this engine was retired in December of 1957. I wonder why the railroad would have kept an engine on the property for over 12 years if it had a cracked boiler from the wreck. Especially in the day and age where a steam locomotive scrapping was the norm.

-Fred-

flyingfred Wrote:
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> I just read on greatnorthernempire.net that this
> engine was retired in December of 1957. I wonder
> why the railroad would have kept an engine on the
> property for over 12 years if it had a cracked
> boiler from the wreck. Especially in the day and
> age where a steam locomotive scrapping was the
> norm.
>
> -Fred-

A crack in a boiler is not fatal.

-John

Brakeman_Phil Wrote:
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> One of the things I would like to
> see, well more like hear, is this whistle on
> steam. It's looks to cool and I'm sure it has a
> very unique sound that says "I'm a Great Northern
> Steam Engine".


I've heard a couple of them and have parts of one in the shop. "Unique" is the nicest thing that can be said about them. They sound dreadful, not speaking anything that could be considered a "musical" chord.



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I believe this is still BNSF property.

Crackerjack, if you have a recording of those GN whistles, I would be very interested in hearing it!

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Guernsey_Switch Wrote:
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> Crackerjack, if you have a recording of those GN
> whistles, I would be very interested in hearing
> it!
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Here's a clip of the 1355's whistle being blown on compressed air. By the way, notice how quickly it consumes 60 gallons of air.

http://www.gnrhs.org/gn1355_whistle.WAV

crackerjackhoghead Wrote:
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> Guernsey_Switch Wrote:
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> > Crackerjack, if you have a recording of those
> GN
> > whistles, I would be very interested in hearing
> > it!
> >
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> Here's a clip of the 1355's whistle being blown
> on compressed air. By the way, notice how quickly
> it consumes 60 gallons of air.
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> http://www.gnrhs.org/gn1355_whistle.WAV

I think that should be lbs. not gals.

Larry Dodgion
Wilsonville, OR

Compressed air doesn't have anywhere near the expansive capability that steam does.

-John

> > Guernsey_Switch Wrote:

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> I think that should be lbs. not gals.


Nope, gallons is what I meant. A 60 gallon receiver drained, just like that!