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Date: 08/12/16 19:34
Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: SD45X

One of the UP centipede tenders wrapped near the turntable today in Cheyenne. 4014 's was east of the shop.
Why??



Date: 08/12/16 19:57
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: jethat

I recall hearing 838's tender was being redone for 844. Maybe thats it.



Date: 08/12/16 21:00
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: up3985

I thought it was 3985s, at least that's what I thought when I saw pics of it.



Date: 08/12/16 22:21
Re: Shrink-wrapped tender?
Author: Odyssey

Back in May at Cheyenne Depot Days and the UP steam shop tour, the "shrink-wrapped" tender was identified as belonging to the 3985.  They needed room in the roundhouse for prepping parts for the 844 ... of course things could've changed since then ... eh?

Cheers,

Odyssey
Evergreen, CO



Date: 08/12/16 22:28
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: tva429

jethat Wrote:
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> I recall hearing 838's tender was being redone for
> 844. Maybe thats it.

844's tender would be just fine if DL hadn't trashed it with his "boiler treatment" chemicals.....



Date: 08/12/16 22:37
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: CaliforniaSteam

tva429 Wrote:
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> jethat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I recall hearing 838's tender was being redone
> for
> > 844. Maybe thats it.
>
> 844's tender would be just fine if DL hadn't
> trashed it with his "boiler treatment"
> chemicals.....

Oh come on now! Those chemicals worked great, trashed the locomotive and tender both at the same time. I'm sure they are being used all over again with a few minor adjustments of course. I would think if it was 3985's tender it would just be sitting out in the elements.  

CS



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/16 22:39 by CaliforniaSteam.



Date: 08/14/16 07:57
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: dan

what is the current treatment, think it is strong stuff 1oz per 1000 gallons or was it 4 oz?


lets be glad the tender got wrapped, that shows care for the 3985.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/14/16 10:03 by dan.



Date: 08/14/16 08:21
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: Realist

dan Wrote:
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> what is the current treatment, think it is strong
> stuff 1oz per 1000 gallons or was it 4 oz?

They were using a LOT more than that. Some places a gallon of it per 1,000 gallons of water or even more.



Date: 08/14/16 08:36
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: dan

what is the  chemical  , how does it work?   what did the old crew and new crew, differences?



Date: 08/14/16 09:41
Re: Shrinkwrapped tender?
Author: Realist

dan Wrote:
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> what is the  chemical  , how does it work?  
> what did the old crew and new crew, differences?

Use the search function.  It is a set of products to
treat water that is not intended for use in high temperature
environments, like making steam, for example.  It comes
from a company with no background in locomotive
boiler water treatment.

It also becomes toxic and corrosive when added to water
that has been chlorinated...........which is pretty much the
only water available except maybe directly from a creek
or ditch or pond.  When it is mixed into the water, it changes
into a dilute form of acid, and starts attacking all metal surfaces
it comes in contact with.  This is why the tender baffles were
eaten away, the piping eaten away, etc.

To top it off, the stuff was set up to treat only water from Cheyenne.
Like most treament chemical purveyors, the very idea of getting
water from difference cities and sources is bizarre, so the product
doesn't play well with anything else but.

Boiler water treatment was argued about for genertaions at meetings
of the old Master Boilermakers Association.  Everybody had their own idea.
The take-away was if you find something that works for your operation,
stick to it.



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