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Date: 07/14/17 03:09
Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: LoggerHogger

All it takes is a few days in the hot cab of a steam locomotive for those of us who still run these beasts for us to long for the daily comfort of our air-conditioned offices of our day job. However, we must remember, back in the days of steam power what we see here was the day-in-day-out office for the crews of these locomotives.

As we look back at September 1952 when this photo of Union Pacific #3832 was taken in Huntington, Oregon we see where the steam crews spent their 12+hour shifts. Just think about those long hot days of summer and cold winter days they endured year in and year out.

Sure, there was pleasure for most in the operation of a huge Challenger type monster as we see here in the form or #3832. However, this was still your daily office and rain or shine, heat or cold you were in there 12+ hours a day, day-in-day-out.

Martin



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 07/14/17 04:55 by LoggerHogger.




Date: 07/14/17 03:43
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: wcamp1472

Maybe, back then, they were
"16-Hr." shifts ????

W.

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Date: 07/14/17 06:39
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: Frisco1522

I was riding a MP passenger train to Kansas City and had a talk with a couple of retired KCS steam engineers on the train. One of them said he drank enough water to float a boat during the summer months firing. They didn't have Gatorade back then. That stuff is great when the heat is like a pizza oven in the cab. Hydrate, wear cotton long sleeve shirts and sweat.



Date: 07/14/17 07:04
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: jkh2cpu

Tell me where to sign up!

John.



Date: 07/14/17 08:27
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: NKP715

Never recall seeing a cab roof "vent" as large
as this one. Was it typical for UP ?



Date: 07/14/17 08:47
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: raytc1944

Hours of service were 16 until the 1970s when they were reduced to 12 hours after a two year 14 hour fase in.



Date: 07/14/17 09:05
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: HotWater

NKP715 Wrote:
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> Never recall seeing a cab roof "vent" as large
> as this one. Was it typical for UP ?

I know the roof vent was nowhere near that large on 3985. Looks almost like part of the roof has been cut-out.



Date: 07/14/17 10:47
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: spnudge

Martin,

Back then, 12 hours was an early quit. :):)


Nudge



Date: 07/14/17 11:55
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: LarryDoyle

13 hrs 40 monutes = "Double day" That seemed to be everyones goal.

-Larry Doyle



Date: 07/14/17 12:07
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: RailRat

NKP715 Wrote:
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> Never recall seeing a cab roof "vent" as large
> as this one. Was it typical for UP ?

Optional sunroof? But seriously, just did a quick google search, some images of 3800 class challengers you can see the same big area on top of cab either open, or covered, with some obvious thick material covering that opening. Didnt see that on pics of the other 3700 or 3900 class, some appear to have a big square raised area for something?

Jim Baker
Riverside, CA



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/14/17 12:32 by Boomer92.



Date: 07/14/17 13:17
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: sgriggs

NKP715 Wrote:
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> Never recall seeing a cab roof "vent" as large
> as this one. Was it typical for UP ?


I noticed the same thing when I looked at the photo. That thing looks like it has T-tops.



Date: 07/14/17 22:43
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: Inthehole

NKP715 Wrote:
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> Never recall seeing a cab roof "vent" as large
> as this one. Was it typical for UP ?

It's the prototype for what us live steamers use...



Date: 07/15/17 03:38
Re: Remember, For Many Crews This Was Their Office Every Day!
Author: Jim700

raytc1944 Wrote:
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> Hours of service were 16 until the 1970s when they were
> reduced to 12 hours after a two year 14 hour fase in.


The dates were 12/26/70 and 12/26/72. There was a thread about that 9½ years ago at https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,1601693,1602050#msg-1602050 wherein I posted a trainorder for the 1972 change. Prior to 1907 there was no HOS limit. An interesting read regarding HOS experiences in those days can be found in John W. Orr's book "Set Up Running: The Life of a Pennsylvania Railroad Engineman".



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