Steam & Excursion > Sunday Morning's PM 1225 Shots

I skipped yesterday's PM 1225 because of the weather
and travel conditions between home and Owosso. Today
I was much braver and I got down to Owosso in time to
get setup for a shot that I wanted to make as the loco
started out of town. Shots 1-2 are leaving Owosso, and
3-4 are down by Smith Road, close to thethe location
that Labby shot from yesterday.

After the Smith Road shots, I took off across country
hoping to get close to Ashley before the train got there,
but the country secondary roads had not been treated,
so there was no way I was going to catch up without a
significant chance of getting airborne before I got
to my chosen spot. Such is winter rail fanning :-)

John.

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This is a broadside that I wanted to get. I'm south of the
tracks, so I get much more light on the subject. I'll try
a few more of these this year if I get a chance.

John.

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Pretty nice. Thanks.

Very well done.
Bob

Excellent photos!
ALLEN

jkh2cpu Wrote:
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> This is a broadside that I wanted to get. I'm
> south of the
> tracks, so I get much more light on the subject.
> I'll try
> a few more of these this year if I get a chance.
>
> John.
That is a nice photo but I am surprised that the window on the fireman's side is closed. That is very unusual when a steam engine is in operation because of the amount of heat coming into the entire cab.
John in White Marsh, Maryland

ClubCar Wrote:
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> That is a nice photo but I am surprised that the
> window on the fireman's side is closed. That is
> very unusual when a steam engine is in operation
> because of the amount of heat coming into the
> entire cab.
> John in White Marsh, Maryland


Obviously you have never worked on a large steam locomotive in very cold weather! You overlooked the huge amount of air that is drawn into the firebox, plus all that VERY cold steel of the entire cab. Also, the backhead of the boiler is well insulated, so that only the front of the Engineer and Fireman are barely warm, but you still better be wearing many layers of clothing. Besides, a good Fireman doesn't need his side window open anyway.

Hi.....Can't those lube containers, or whatever they are, in shot #2 be painted black so they are not as noticeable? Just a thought of how to make something wonderful...even better for pictures.

Nice group of shots John!  Was at Smith Road talking with Joe and Sheila Ralph and watched the 1225 go by. Then drove straight to Ashley and got there just before the train. Afternoon was really nice curving into King Road. Then we all went home.

Next weekend; last weekend!

I LOVE your broadside shot! You got everything --
her bell ringing, her Lima diamond-shaped builder's
plate, billows of condensing steam from her stack,
condensing steam from down low near driver #1,
rods partway up, and a full load of coal in her
tender.

Well done! What more could anyone want -- other
than to be there, chasing her and enjoying her
looks and sounds?

Brrrrrr!!!!! Sure looked COLD out there! (I'm a
wimpy Bay Area Californian -- < G > )

She is a really nice-looking engine, and I am glad
you were able to go out and photograph her. Another
Lima Super Power engine -- operating!!

Cool Cool Cool.

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> Hi.....Can't those lube containers, or whatever
> they are, in shot #2 be painted black so they are
> not as noticeable?

No.

UPTRAIN Wrote:
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> > Hi.....Can't those lube containers, or whatever
> > they are, in shot #2 be painted black so they
> are
> > not as noticeable?
>
> No.

Why not?

HotWater Wrote:
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> > > Hi.....Can't those lube containers, or
> whatever
> > > they are, in shot #2 be painted black so they
> > are
> > > not as noticeable?
> >
> > No.
>
> Why not?

You haven't shown up to paint them yet - that's why ;)

Those plastic barrels hold the water treatment chemicals - pretty nasty stuff to handle and a bear to move around, which is why they are where they are.

nathansixchime Wrote:
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> > > > Hi.....Can't those lube containers, or
> > whatever
> > > > they are, in shot #2 be painted black so
> they
> > > are
> > > > not as noticeable?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Why not?
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> You haven't shown up to paint them yet - that's
> why ;)
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> Those plastic barrels hold the water treatment
> chemicals - pretty nasty stuff to handle and a
> bear to move around, which is why they are where
> they are.

We've hauled about 17,000 people so far this NPE season and are scheduled to haul about 5,000 this coming final weekend. Haven't heard any complaints so far from anybody who has ridden the train and don't expect to hear any from this coming weekend's riders. This whole operation is all about giving everybody a joyous Holiday experience, not catering to some non-paying complaining photo foamer.

William Wilson
St. Johns, MI

nathansixchime Wrote:
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> HotWater Wrote:
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> > > > Hi.....Can't those lube containers, or
> > whatever
> > > > they are, in shot #2 be painted black so
> they
> > > are
> > > > not as noticeable?
> > >
> > > No.
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> > Why not?
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> You haven't shown up to paint them yet - that's
> why ;)

Well if that's all it takes, I would gladly pay for 4 or 5 spray cans of RustOLeum satin black. Since those plastic "barrels" are reusable, spraying them black shouldn't be THAT big of a deal. Also, lets remember that I was NOT the one that complained about them in the first place being plainly visible there, but ONLY inquired why the couldn't be painted black. During such operations of the "Polar Express", or whatever else each organization desires to advertise it, surely does NOT mean that EVERYTHING on the locomotive really needs to be "correct". For example, the "Holiday Express" trips with SP 4449, with all her Christmas lights, are a HUGE SUCCESS every year in Portland, OR!

> Those plastic barrels hold the water treatment
> chemicals - pretty nasty stuff to handle and a
> bear to move around, which is why they are where
> they are.

OK, but if they are THAT difficult to handle, how do they get the treatment chemical out of them and into the tender water.

Here's how they did it on the UP back in 1972 or 3.
We're in Laramie.

Anything will do, I guess. It's to carry stuff :-)

John.

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HotWater Wrote:
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> nathansixchime Wrote:
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> > Those plastic barrels hold the water treatment
> > chemicals - pretty nasty stuff to handle and a
> > bear to move around, which is why they are
> where
> > they are.
>
> OK, but if they are THAT difficult to handle, how
> do they get the treatment chemical out of them and
> into the tender water.

I bet they use a drum pump like we do to move chemicals from old drums out here in the oil patch:

The 12 volt Proactive Drum Pump is a powerful little pump that will drain over 185 gallons per hour. This little pump is truly an amazing device, powered simply by a portable 12 volt battery. So small it fits in your back pocket! But yet so powerful, it can lift water from 30 feet! It never needs priming. Made of super strong ABS material it will not rust or corrode.

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Pic #4 looks like a builder's photo. Great shot!

Cumbresfan Wrote:
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> I bet they use a drum pump like we do to move
> chemicals from old drums out here in the oil
> patch:

I seriously doubt THAT!


> The 12 volt Proactive Drum Pump is a powerful
> little pump that will drain over 185 gallons per
> hour. This little pump is truly an amazing device,
> powered simply by a portable 12 volt battery. So
> small it fits in your back pocket! But yet so
> powerful, it can lift water from 30 feet! It never
> needs priming. Made of super strong ABS material
> it will not rust or corrode.