Steam & Excursion > "Big Boy" image

April 12, 2019 Union Pacific photo from the web. The chalked "Big Boy" on the 4014 smokebox door has been removed, and smoke drifts from the stack. Thank you again, UP and steam crew. Be safe!

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Waking up!

Omg! There is smoke coming out of the stack.....

CS

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Beautiful.  Simply beautiful.   Mr. Dickens...please don’t mess up your fantastic work with signs, plaques, flags, banners, pie plates, chrome, or bunting. Please just leave her just as she was intended to be.    Let her beauty and all your hard work shine through.   Oh...looking...1948 or so.

Nice to see two things here all positive resposise and smoke coming from her stack, thanks steam crew knew you could do it. Looking at the progress pictures work on it looked to be very high quaility. Boyd in Chiloquin

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> Beautiful.  Simply beautiful.   Mr.
> Dickens...please don’t mess up your fantastic
> work with signs, plaques, flags, banners, pie
> plates, chrome, or bunting. Please just leave her
> just as she was intended to be.    Let her
> beauty and all your hard work shine through.  
> Oh...looking...1948 or so.

LOL, who are you kidding? You know its going to have all the things on it that you mentioned and then some. 

BKLJ611 Wrote:

> LOL, who are you kidding? You know its going to
> have all the things on it that you mentioned and
> then some. 
844 did'nt have anything on it.

Spikes Wrote:
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> BKLJ611 Wrote:
>
> > LOL, who are you kidding? You know its going to
> > have all the things on it that you mentioned
> and
> > then some. 
> 844 did'nt have anything on it.

Huh? I've seen 844 festooned with all the aforementioned. Not that I mind.

Spikes Wrote:
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> BKLJ611 Wrote:
>
> > LOL, who are you kidding? You know its going to
> > have all the things on it that you mentioned
> and
> > then some. 
> 844 did'nt have anything on it.

Maybe sitting inside the Cheyenne Shop, 844 "didn't have anything on it", but it sure has all sorts of crap on the front end whenever it runs, not to mention all the bright shinny nuts & bolts and "dog dishes" at each wash-out plug.

Why do so many operators of steam in the U.S. (not just UP) insist on screwing up the appearance of their locomotives? I love the American flag. But it, and any other flag other than those needed for operational purposes should not  be on the front of the loco. And another pet peeve. Why do crews in the cab insist on wearing those obnoxious yellow vests? If you have to go off the footplate, then by all means put one on for safety reasons. But they completely ruin any attempt at photos. Somehow in steam days they managed to survive without them. And of course the real killer. The diesel assist. If needed, at least put the dam thing at the back of the train out of view. That's how it's generally done in the U.K. but only on rare occasions when needed. 

Andersonb109.....amen.    I couldn’t have written it better myself.  My sentiments 100%.

andersonb109 Wrote:
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> Why do so many operators of steam in the U.S. (not
> just UP) insist on screwing up the appearance of
> their locomotives? I love the American flag. But
> it, and any other flag other than those needed for
> operational purposes should not  be on the front
> of the loco.

Thus, you will NOT see such flags on the front of SP 4449!

And another pet peeve. Why do crews
> in the cab insist on wearing those obnoxious
> yellow vests?

Again, you will NOT see those "obnoxious yellow vests" in the cab of SP 4449, as we request the Pilot Crews to remove them while in the cab. Remember that the various railroad rules require those vests/jackets to be worn when ON THE GROUND! Thus, there is no need to wear them in the cab, especially since those vests/jackets are NOT constructed of 100% cotton, and should NOT be worn in the cab of a steam locomotive.

If you have to go off the footplate,
> then by all means put one on for safety reasons.
> But they completely ruin any attempt at photos.
> Somehow in steam days they managed to survive
> without them.

Absolutely!

And of course the real killer. The
> diesel assist. If needed, at least put the dam
> thing at the back of the train out of view.

Such can NOT be done due to various and many operating rules & requirements. Besides, how would the the steam locomotive be able to control that unit on the rear of the passenger train? 

That's
> how it's generally done in the U.K. but only on
> rare occasions when needed. 

But,,,,,,,that diesel on the rear in the UK is NOT providing HEP to the rest of the train, nor is it "controlled" by the steam locomotive up front. Your trying to compare apples and water melons!

andersonb109 Wrote:
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> Why do so many operators of steam in the U.S. (not
> just UP) insist on screwing up the appearance of
> their locomotives? I love the American flag. But
> it, and any other flag other than those needed for
> operational purposes should not  be on the front
> of the loco. And another pet peeve. Why do crews
> in the cab insist on wearing those obnoxious
> yellow vests? If you have to go off the footplate,
> then by all means put one on for safety reasons.
> But they completely ruin any attempt at photos.
> Somehow in steam days they managed to survive
> without them. And of course the real killer. The
> diesel assist. If needed, at least put the dam
> thing at the back of the train out of view. That's
> how it's generally done in the U.K. but only on
> rare occasions when needed. 


I for one am suggesting that our steem leaders take a poll before every trip. To see what each and every foamer would like to see (or not to see) on the next run. If it's not possible to meet every request, then the dress up should go to the highest bidder. 

Problem solved. Each and every moron can be happy.

Hmmm

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nycman Wrote:
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> Hmmm

Yes, I was waiting such a comment. Not that 4449 is painted in red, white and blue from the American Freedom Train, and ALWAYS carried American flags in the flag holders. At the end of each move, those flags were presented to the local official of the city/town where the Freedom Train had just arrived in.

Little known story: upon arriving in St Louis, I was delegated to go up and remove the two flags, which were going to be presented to the Mayor of St Louis. Apparently, non of the "big shots" from the mayor's office ever showed up, so............to this very day, those same 2 American flags are mounted & framed, with photos of me removing the flags, in our up-stairs library.

HotWater Wrote:
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> And of course the real killer. The
> > diesel assist. If needed, at least put the dam
> > thing at the back of the train out of view.
>
> Such can NOT be done due to various and many
> operating rules & requirements. Besides, how would
> the the steam locomotive be able to control that
> unit on the rear of the passenger train? 

What rules are those?

> But,,,,,,,that diesel on the rear in the UK is NOT
> providing HEP to the rest of the train, nor is it
> "controlled" by the steam locomotive up front.
> Your trying to compare apples and water melons

Why can’t you compare apples and watermelons?

Regardless, why couldn’t a locomotive on the rear of a consist provide HEP to the train?

 

I still think this is the most beautiful Locomotive made by man. I dont care if it runs flags or not. Actually I kinda like white extra flags, but she is beautiful and patriotic with American flags.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/19 18:12 by TomG.

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HotWater Wrote:
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> andersonb109 Wrote:
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> > Why do so many operators of steam in the U.S.
> (not
> > just UP) insist on screwing up the appearance
> of
> > their locomotives? I love the American flag.
> But
> > it, and any other flag other than those needed
> for
> > operational purposes should not  be on the
> front
> > of the loco.
>
> Thus, you will NOT see such flags on the front of
> SP 4449!

🤔

Hey TomG.....ever see a picture of a New York Central 4-6-4?

Are you refering to the ones that look like propane tanks from Mars or the shovel nose jobbers? LOL They are nice, but dont have the Daylight paint. Of course its only my opinion and would'nt get you a cup of soup even if I included 3 bucks with it.