Steam & Excursion > 4014 and crew photos

In most of the photos and my seeing 4014, the crew really likes hanging out the gang way and windows.
When I followed 844 and 3985, the crew was seated and just waved. Rarely if ever saw anyone hanging out the gangway.
Just a observation.

Popcorn time folks...

KC

Maybe someone can persuade the whole crew to line up by the locomotive for a "class picture" along with IDs left to right...

JB - Omaha

They're just checking to make sure they're still on the tracks! One minor allowance, Ed at West Cima hanging
out and in all fairness with that boiler swing you're close to the signal before you can see it.
Out

Go to the Utube place and look at movies of the big engines. Engineer and Fireman hang out the window to get a better view ahead. The B&O had two guys on the Fireman side.. Two windows even..why was that ?
RB



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/19 16:16 by up833.

up833 Wrote:
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> Go to the Utube place and look at movies of the
> big engines. Engineer and Fireman hang out the
> window to get a better view ahead. The B&O had two
> guys on the Fireman side.. Two windows even..why
> was that ?
> RB

If that’s the case then why does this regime hang out the window while operating a smaller engine like 844? I’ll hang up and listen

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/19 17:00 by Spoony81.

up833 Wrote:
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> The B&O had two
> guys on the Fireman side.. Two windows even..why
> was that ?
> RB


Unless other accomodations were provided, the head brakeman's seat was normally situated behind that of the fireman.

Chico43 Wrote:
 Unless other accomodations were provided, the head  brakeman's seat was normally situated behind that
 of the fireman.
On all three of UP's locomotives the all weather cabs have four seats in them, One behind each of the locomoitve working crew.

Bob Krieger
Cheyenne, WY

Chico43 Wrote:
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> up833 Wrote:
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> Unless other accomodations were provided, the head
> brakeman's seat was normally situated behind that
> of the fireman

Depending upon the cab layout, the fireman will take the seat most convenient to his controls and/or access to the firedoor.  Other than that, there's no priority.

-LD

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Freeloaders, that's what tender doghouses are for!

Out

I think Steve Lee's crew did their share of window hanging as well....see Williams Loop in 1992.

Dave

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Spoony81 Wrote:
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> up833 Wrote:
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> > Go to the Utube place and look at movies of the
> > big engines. Engineer and Fireman hang out the
> > window to get a better view ahead. The B&O had
> two
> > guys on the Fireman side.. Two windows
> even..why
> > was that ?
> > RB
>
> If that’s the case then why does this regime
> hang out the window while operating a smaller
> engine like 844? I’ll hang up and listen
>
> Posted from iPhone

Probably for the same reason that every other steam crew on every other photograph on trainorders does. How about you tell us. . .

portlander Wrote:
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> Spoony81 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > up833 Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Go to the Utube place and look at movies of
> the
> > > big engines. Engineer and Fireman hang out
> the
> > > window to get a better view ahead. The B&O
> had
> > two
> > > guys on the Fireman side.. Two windows
> > even..why
> > > was that ?
> > > RB
> >
> > If that’s the case then why does this regime
> > hang out the window while operating a smaller
> > engine like 844? I’ll hang up and listen
> >
> > Posted from iPhone
>
> Probably for the same reason that every other
> steam crew on every other photograph on
> trainorders does. How about you tell us. . .

Portlander,

Are you aware that both arm rests, i.e the Engineer's AND Fireman's, on UP 844 have been seriously widened, in order that either man can be leaning out MUCH further than previously?

All I can say, give it up.  Chill.   Those guys earned it.  They are having the time of their lives.  They earned it.  

John Bromley - Omaha

Why is this an issue?

Copy19 Wrote:
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> All I can say, give it up.  Chill.   Those guys
> earned it.  They are having the time of their
> lives.  They earned it.  
>
> John Bromley - Omaha

If they just didn't wear their canary suits, nobody would notice them.  Don't need them in the cab.     Posting this for a friend.

Yes sometimes the fireman and engineer hang out if they hear something to check the running gear etc. But all the time????? Jack posted earlier the arm rest's on the 844 were replaced with bigger ones for the hanging out the cab. How can you run the train hanging out that much and not be checking gauges, communicating with fireman, and changing throttle positions. It's ridiculous.

CS

Maybe its 120° in the cab, and the AC ain't working.

Posted from Android

LocoPilot750 Wrote:
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> Maybe its 120° in the cab, and the AC ain't
> working.
>
> Posted from Android

Most of the time thats when your stopped.

CS