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Steam & Excursion > Train Time at San BernardinoDate: 05/15/20 11:47 Train Time at San Bernardino Author: tehachcond These three shots are from the Nolan Black collection, and were taken near the Santa Fe passenger depot at San Bernardino, California.
1. 4-8-2 3722 is about to couple into what looks like a railfan special, while another train prepares for the climb up Cajon Pass May 4, 1941. 2. This trim looking 4-4-2 Atlantic was the regular engine on #42 and #43, the local passenger train that ran from Los Angeles to San Bernardino and back. She bore the nickname "Seabiscuit," the fsamous race horse, because of her rapid acceleration away from a station. 1940. 3. Steam fans can argue far into the night as to what the finest 4-8-4 design was, but these last series Santa Fe 4-8-4's would be near the top of anyone's list. Notice the roller bearing rods. Here we see 3780 with an eastbound railfan special March 7, 1948. Thanks for looking, and as always, comments welcome. Brian Black Castle Rock, CO Date: 05/15/20 12:36 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: Railfan4Christ Very nice!
Tom Date: 05/15/20 13:21 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: johnsweetser tehachcond wrote:
> These three shots ... were taken near the Santa Fe passenger depot at San Bernardino, California. > 1. 4-8-2 3722 is about to couple into what looks like a railfan special ... May 4, 1941. Correct. This was the Railroad Boosters' "Second Kite Route" excursion on the Santa Fe's Redlands branch (their first Kite Route excursion was in 1938. The Railroad Boosters was renamed the Pacific Railroad Society in 1949). Posted from iPhone Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/20 13:35 by johnsweetser. Date: 05/15/20 13:46 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: Elesco Wonderful photos and wonderful locomotives. Thank you for posting!
Date: 05/15/20 15:44 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: TonyJ That Santa Fe 4-4-0 would challenge some of SP's 4-4-0s in a "Ugly Locomotive" contest. Thanks for the photos. - Tony J.
Date: 05/15/20 15:50 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: HotWater TonyJ Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > That Santa Fe 4-4-0 would challenge some of SP's > 4-4-0s in a "Ugly Locomotive" contest. Thanks for > the photos. - Tony J. Except,,,,,,,,,,,that Santa Fe locomotive is a 4-4-2. Date: 05/15/20 16:27 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: Frisco1522 That Atlantic looks like somebody dropped the front drivers out of a 4-6-2. Sure looks unbalanced, but more of the weight is on the drivers like this. Thanks for sharing these.
Date: 05/15/20 18:05 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: tehachcond johnsweetser Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > tehachcond wrote: > > > These three shots ... were taken near the > Santa Fe passenger depot at San Bernardino, > California. > > > 1. 4-8-2 3722 is about to couple into what > looks like a railfan special ... May 4, 1941. > > Correct. This was the Railroad Boosters' "Second > Kite Route" excursion on the Santa Fe's Redlands > branch (their first Kite Route excursion was in > 1938. The Railroad Boosters was renamed the > Pacific Railroad Society in 1949). > > Posted from iPhone Thanks for the clarification John. I thought it might be a Railroad Boosters trip since Dad was one of the founders of the organization. I've been a member of Pacific Railroad Society for many years, and currently hold Seniority number 16 on the PRS roster. Brian Date: 05/16/20 02:05 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: Evan_Werkema The 3780 would go on to be the last Santa Fe steam locomotive to operate in revenue service, as a helper out of Belen, NM on August 27, 1957.
The 1468 may look a bit gap-toothed, but it was far from the least-attractive Santa Fe 4-4-2. Most of Chico's Atlantics were built as 4-cylinder balanced compounds, and some arguably looked better that way than after simpling (for those lucky enough to be simpled at all). Here is sister 1460 as a compound: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/57246 But then there was the 1480-class, the so-called "Bull Moose" Atlantics, which _Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail_ charitably described as "among the homeliest Atlantics ever to be put over the turntable by an American railroad." http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-s1485ggC.jpg https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/57222 Upon rebuilding with just two cylinders, the Bull Mooses actually looked reasonably respectable, with the drivers somewhat further forward compared to the simpled 1468: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/58733 https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/58632 In any event, except for a few stragglers like 1468, Santa Fe was out of the Atlantic business fairly early. Many were cut up as compounds in the late 1920's with less than a quarter century of service to their credit. Most of the rest were gone by WWII, and only 10 were still on the roster in 1950. Date: 05/16/20 19:05 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: Trainman41 Being that # 1468 seems to be very well cared for, and the fact it was the engine used for the LA to San Bernardino run, it probably had the same crew everyday, and they consider her..."their engine"
Hence, it was kept clean and shinny, like the crews did back in the 1800's Date: 05/17/20 09:55 Re: Train Time at San Bernardino Author: mundo Yes, for hogger Charlie Ochio (spelling?), it was his locomotive and his train.
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