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Date: 04/27/25 09:24
UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: PumpkinHogger

Yesterday in Bristol UK on arriving from a spin to Birmingham with UK mate rugbytown, noted a collection of "neds" (US: foamers) milling at the end of a platform, an indication that something out of the ordinary is afoot. A quick check of Traksy (one of many stunning sites ala Flightaware displaying UK rail traffic) found a head code 1Z92 (Z denotes a charter) steam powered excursion operated by West Coast Railways was coming in. 

Didn't have to wait long and was rewarded with the glorious sight of SR Merchant Navy class 35028 looking like it just left the works.

This a daily occurrence in the UK where steam operators can access the mainline subject only to available paths thanks to national ownership, unlike in the States where the Big 7 do all they can to prevent an excursion.

Seen arriving from Salisbury, part of a nine-day outing.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/25 09:45 by PumpkinHogger.








Date: 04/27/25 09:27
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: PumpkinHogger

A GWR HST killer passes inbound from Plymouth as the fireman places a marker for the reverse from the station.

Closer view of the front.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/25 09:42 by PumpkinHogger.






Date: 04/27/25 09:33
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: PumpkinHogger

Close-up of the cab and beautiful copper piping.

Class 57 (re-engined Class 47 with EMD guts, sounds like an SD39 because it basically is) on the rear for the reverse from the station.

Just another day on the rails in the UK....






Date: 04/27/25 12:52
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: RBMN-ENGR

Fantastic!
Hope to visit someday.

Posted from Android

Chris Bost
Leesport, PA



Date: 04/27/25 13:03
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: santafe199

Well done, sir! 🤗

Posted from iPhone



Date: 04/27/25 15:15
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: Frisco1522

Great photos! Some things that I'm curious about. The crank on the #3 driver. Is that some sort of lubricator? Are there British whistle signals posted any where like ours in America? And I've always wondered why the route the cylinder cock exhaust right out to the rails in front of the engine. Do British engines carry sand?
Inquiring minds want to know.



Date: 04/27/25 16:38
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: timz

Weak guess: that whatever-it-is on #3 driver wasn't there in BR days.

How about the white discs on the smokebox?
Two side by side like that wasn't usual on BR, was it?



Date: 04/27/25 16:49
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: wp1801

A beautiful British locomotive!



Date: 04/27/25 16:58
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: timz

The Wikipedia article says it has air brakes.
Can it still haul vacuum-braked cars?



Date: 04/27/25 17:16
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: E25

Beautiful locomotive!

I noticed that there is no "headlight" on the boiler door.  I guess that those 3 small high-intensity / LED lights mounted on the buffer frame serve the same purpose?

Greg Stadter
Phoenix, AZ



Date: 04/27/25 17:30
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: HotWater

timz Wrote:
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> The Wikipedia article says it has air brakes.
> Can it still haul vacuum-braked cars?

Maybe the brakes on the locomotive, i.e. the independent brakes are air pressure, while the train brakes are vacuum brakes..



Date: 04/27/25 18:32
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: mitch45

British steam does not have headlights.  Those are the equivelate Of class lights.  Depending on which are lit denotes what type of train the locomotive is pulling.



Date: 04/27/25 18:47
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: flash34

Frisco1522 Wrote:
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> Great photos! Some things that I'm curious about.
> The crank on the #3 driver. Is that some sort of
> lubricator? Are there British whistle signals
> posted any where like ours in America? And I've
> always wondered why the route the cylinder cock
> exhaust right out to the rails in front of the
> engine. Do British engines carry sand?
> Inquiring minds want to know.

Don, not positive but I want to say this is a speedometer.



Date: 04/28/25 00:56
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: PumpkinHogger

Frisco1522 Wrote:
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> Great photos! Some things that I'm curious about.
> The crank on the #3 driver. Is that some sort of
> lubricator?

That I can't answer, for someone knowledgeable.

Are there British whistle signals
> posted any where like ours in America?

There aren't whistle posts for crossings ala our practice as they are heavily protected with barriers so whistling for crossings isn't done. They also initiate closing at a longer advance time than ours. Too, if you're in the gauge it's on you to sort out and not a cadre of ambulance chasing lawyers.

Horns are used pretty much only to warn workers. No whistling off when starting either - same as US commuter practice - as there would be a load of unhappy eardrums in stations.

And I've
> always wondered why the route the cylinder cock
> exhaust right out to the rails in front of the
> engine. Do British engines carry sand?
> Inquiring minds want to know.

Again, must leave that to those with the knowledge.

PH



Date: 04/28/25 01:02
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: PumpkinHogger

All you'd ever want to know and then some:
https://sremg.org.uk/headcodes/sheadcodes.html

timz Wrote:
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> How about the white discs on the smokebox?
> Two side by side like that wasn't usual on BR, was
> it?



Date: 04/28/25 01:10
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: PumpkinHogger

Anything running on Network Rail today is equipped with familiar-to-us standard air brakes; there is still vacuum-braked stock on heritage railways. "Unfitted" equipment was phased out in the '80's.

timz Wrote:
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> The Wikipedia article says it has air brakes.
> Can it still haul vacuum-braked cars?



Date: 04/28/25 07:22
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: masterphots

One of my favorite class of British steam



Date: 04/28/25 12:24
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: gcm

Excellent series !
I would love to see that every day.
Gary



Date: 04/29/25 07:26
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: PumpkinHogger

I sit corrected on whistle posts. Rode the branch lines from Darlington to Whitby yesterday, there were a few W signs, elicited only a single brief toot.

Rode the North Yorkshire Moors Railway today, asked about the cylinder cock exhaust. Consensus was they point forward account of high platforms that would block side exhaust as well as due to tighter clearances that would scatter passengers. So there ya go.

Frisco1522 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Great photos! Some things that I'm curious about.
> The crank on the #3 driver. Is that some sort of
> lubricator? Are there British whistle signals
> posted any where like ours in America? And I've
> always wondered why the route the cylinder cock
> exhaust right out to the rails in front of the
> engine. Do British engines carry sand?
> Inquiring minds want to know.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/25 08:01 by PumpkinHogger.




Date: 04/29/25 08:25
Re: UK Steam - Every day on the mainline here
Author: Frisco1522

PumpkinHogger Wrote:
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> I sit corrected on whistle posts. Rode the branch
> lines from Darlington to Whitby yesterday, there
> were a few W signs, elicited only a single brief
> toot.
>
> Rode the North Yorkshire Moors Railway today,
> asked about the cylinder cock exhaust. Consensus
> was they point forward account of high platforms
> that would block side exhaust as well as due to
> tighter clearances that would scatter passengers.
> So there ya go.
>
> Frisco1522 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Great photos! Some things that I'm curious
> about.
> > The crank on the #3 driver. Is that some sort
> of
> > lubricator? Are there British whistle signals
> > posted any where like ours in America? And I've
> > always wondered why the route the cylinder cock
> > exhaust right out to the rails in front of the
> > engine. Do British engines carry sand?
> > Inquiring minds want to know.
I guess that makes sense about the cylinder cocks although they are blowing steam and oil vapor right on the track. I don't know if there is sand on their engines but it seems like it would be a little slippery.  Not criticising, just curious.
I admire how much is running over there.  One of my favorites is the Black Fives. I can't imagine
running at night without a headlight.
Thanks for your answers.



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