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Date: 01/22/04 16:40
Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: MTMEngineer

Well, it IS steam.

It DOES move things about cross-country.

It's "Shay" driven (with a few extra gears).

But - - - crawler tracks?

Where are the rails???


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Date: 01/22/04 17:00
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: NYCSTL8

Is it a steam thresher engine or some similar animal? A fellow in Greenville, OH, has something that resembles this that he actually drives in state highways.



Date: 01/22/04 17:22
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: Lighter

> But - - - crawler tracks?
>
> Where are the rails???

It's a logging locomotive for winter use. Perhaps a Lombard or clone? It runs on ice worn into an icy ditch. The fellow on the front gets the joy of steering. I'd guess that back in the days the steering fellow was someone much more agile!

I've not seen photos with front wheels rather than skids, but I'd guess some enterprising logging company figured why not use the locomotive in the summer.

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It's a Phoenix. Here is a URL to operations on a preserved Lombard.
http://www.robertjohndavis.com/aott/archive/lincoln/lombard.html



Date: 01/22/04 17:22
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: MTMEngineer

NYCSTL8 Wrote:
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> Is it a steam thresher engine or some similar
> animal? A fellow in Greenville, OH, has something
> that resembles this that he actually drives in
> state highways.


Similar? - Yeah, sorta. But can anyone be more specific?

I know Ohio boiler laws are lax (hence, Medina), but IIRC they do require that vehicles on state highways have rubber, not steel, tires. I'm surprised he's gotten away with it.



Date: 01/22/04 18:14
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: SJH

My guess would also be a Lombard log hauler, or similar machine.



Date: 01/22/04 18:30
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: MTMEngineer

Yeah, it's a log hauler. She has her summer shoes on, that is, there are rollers on the steering mechanism rather than sleigh runners for running on ice roads.

But, it's not a Lombard. It's a ------------- oooops, I almost told ya.

How's it differ from a Lombard? Who built her? Where? And, for extra credit, how does the difference between this machine and a Lombard compare to a similar difference between two well known steam locomotive designs?

Need a hint?

;-)



Date: 01/22/04 19:06
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: gaar2575

Ohio's boiler reg's have gotten a lot more strict in the past 2 years, they now require a more stringent boiler test as well as an operator test before you can run there.

KRH



Date: 01/22/04 19:43
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: LarryB

Now, if they put rubber tracks on a Big Boy, they wouldn't have to worry about finding a railroad to run it on :>

LarryB @ mp308, UP Canyon Sub



Date: 01/22/04 20:21
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: EdSelinsky

It looks like a Phoenix, built right here in the great state of Wisconsin. Lombard log haulers had horizontal cylinders mounted under the boiler, like most steam locomtives. and the Phoenix had vertically mounted cylinders on either side of the boiler. much like a shay, but on both sides of the boiler. There were usually two mounted on each side.



Date: 01/22/04 20:24
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: MTMEngineer

Good job, Ed!

A Lombard was geared pretty much like a Climax, while a Phoenix was more like a Shay, as you pointed out.



Date: 01/23/04 03:29
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: SJH

Very cool. Where is the Phoenix in the photo located, and is that a recent picture? (still steaming?) Thanks.



Date: 01/23/04 16:16
Re: Whazzit???? (Anatomy 101 1/2)
Author: railfan4449

Saw on the History channel once that the treads were inspiration for the tank.



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