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Date: 03/21/10 07:49
D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: yardclerk

Does anyone recognize this location? Might it be Denver?

Appreciate any info.

Yardclerk




Date: 03/21/10 08:29
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: WAF

Looks like the Burnham Shops in Denver



Date: 03/21/10 09:25
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: rehunn

Very much so, like on the west side looking back toward the parking lot.



Date: 03/21/10 09:42
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: HistoryBuff

WAF Wrote:
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> Looks like the Burnham Shops in Denver


Greed, Burnham.

HB



Date: 03/21/10 09:54
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: yardclerk

Much obliged to you all for that info. Trainorders is a fount of knowledge.

Another question. How many ALCo PBs were turned into Steam Generators cars?

Yardclerk



Date: 03/21/10 12:37
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: WAF

yardclerk Wrote:
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> Much obliged to you all for that info.
> Trainorders is a fount of knowledge.
>
> Another question. How many ALCo PBs were turned
> into Steam Generators cars?
>
> Yardclerk

Two, the 252 and 253



Date: 03/21/10 13:46
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: flynn

I did a Google search for Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad Steam Generator and got the following Wikipedia webpage,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Grande_Zephyr

On the webpage I searched for steam and got the following under Equipment Used,

Steam Generator car rebuilt from an ALCo PB1

The above Wikipedia webpage had a link to ALCo PB1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALCO_PA

I searched this webpage for steam and got the following interesting paragraph,

“Fans deemed the PA one of the most beautiful diesels by design and an ‘Honorary Steam Locomotive,’ with the first being Professor George W. Hilton in a book review in the September, 1968, Trains Magazine, because of a peculiarity of the ALCO 244 diesel prime mover when accelerating. Until the turbocharger came up to speed, thick clouds of black smoke would pour from the exhaust stacks, due to turbo lag. Photographing a moving PA while smoking became a prime objective of railfans.

Near the bottom of the above webpage there is a table under the topic Original Buyers.

The Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad is listed with PA1 4 and PB1 2.



Date: 03/21/10 13:58
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: yardclerk

Many thanks again.

Yardclerk



Date: 03/21/10 21:42
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: rswebber

Both were converted, differently.



Date: 03/21/10 21:46
Re: D&RGW Fans, Need A Location Please
Author: davew833

Nice to see a pic of #252 and #253 together! I wonder if this was right after their conversion to steam generator cars in 1965- the autos look right. #253 survives today as an HEP generator car on the Algoma Central. #252 was unfortunately scrapped about 1991, along with her distinctive trucks. #253 was converted to 4-wheel EMD Blomberg trucks in 1980.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/10 21:50 by davew833.



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