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Nostalgia & History > Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 1963Date: 10/22/14 10:02 Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 1963 Author: photobob The Santa Barbara operator hands up orders to the head end of Train 98 the Coast Daylight in the Summer of 1963. Alco PA 6066 leads this mixed power consist
.Robert Morris Photography http://www.snowcrest.net/photobob/index1.html Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/14 10:16 by photobob. Date: 10/22/14 10:16 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: railstiesballast As always, thanks for sharing.
IIRC the TO office was in the freight house about 1/2 mile east of the passenger station until the yard was closed later in the 60s. Later images show orders handed up at the passenger station. I could have been on that train, I made a couple of trips from Glendale to "The City" that summer in checking out where to live when I transferred to college in the bay area. Date: 10/22/14 11:25 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: hogheaded Nice, Bob!
This very spot is where I first climbed onto an SP caboose as a brakeman. Foghorn Fagan, conductor. -E.O. Date: 10/22/14 11:45 Re: orders at Santa Barbara Author: timz >
> IIRC the TO office was in the freight house about > 1/2 mile east of the passenger station until the > yard was closed later in the 60s. > Later images show orders handed up at the > passenger station. Do they show a TO signal? Date: 10/22/14 11:45 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: CA_Sou_MA_Agent It doesn't look like a three-quarter dome is in the consist. I never could figure out why placing such a car on the COAST DAYLIGHT was almost an after-thought in later years by the Espee. The scenery along the route certainly warranted it. Kruschev's special train had TWO of them.
Date: 10/22/14 12:19 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: coach Best looking passenger engine ever built!
Date: 10/22/14 12:48 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: spnudge Santa Barb never had a TO signal until the office was moved to the station for the run thrus.
Nudge Date: 10/22/14 13:30 Re: orders at Santa Barbara Author: Exespee All trains were required to get a clearance at "BR" before the run thrus started
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/14 13:33 by Exespee. Date: 10/22/14 13:43 Re: orders at Santa Barbara Author: wabash2800 Wow, great as usual: big ass PA and handing up train orders. How much better could it get than that?
Date: 10/22/14 13:51 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: Cajon92 Great shot, Bob.
~Ryan Date: 10/22/14 14:59 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: knotch8 Great photo, Bob. Thanks, as always, for sharing all of your wonderful photos.
For some of the other comments, "Best looking passenger unit" "How could it get better than that?" Easy. Look at the beautiful, graceful, elegant, reliable unit leading SP Train 1 at Colton in the post above this one. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/14 15:00 by knotch8. Date: 10/22/14 15:34 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: BoilingMan Oh, sigh...
The Coast Daylight as I remember it! I used to ride my bike down with my younger brother to roll-by the Daylight and the Coast Mail in those days. I remember the roundhouse was still standing, but maybe had already been spun off to a building supply outfit by this time. Later we moved to Goleta- but the bike ride ritual didn't change any. The Goleta station was still active. The agent's name was Sutten or Stanton, something like that. He sure didn't much care for kids hanging around- we used to sneak in on our hands and knees to get timetables in the waiting room. SR Date: 10/22/14 15:57 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: ButteStBrakeman hogheaded Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Nice, Bob! > > This very spot is where I first climbed onto an SP > caboose as a brakeman. Foghorn Fagan, conductor. > > -E.O. Bill was one of the best SLO had to offer!!! V SLOCONDR Date: 10/22/14 16:18 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: agentatascadero This must be a rare photo...to show a full baggage car in the consist while the combines were still active. I never did see such a thing....until the "real" Daylight was long gone, morphed into a combined Sunset/Daylight after the LA coachyard closed. AA
Stanford White Carmel Valley, CA Date: 10/22/14 17:31 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: M-420 No plow
Isn't that unusual? Is this a SSW or T&NO unit? Date: 10/22/14 17:48 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: MyfordBrowning agentatascadero Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > This must be a rare photo...to show a full baggage > car in the consist while the combines were still > active. I never did see such a thing....until the > "real" Daylight was long gone, morphed into a > combined Sunset/Daylight after the LA coachyard > closed. AA Looks like the second car is the combine. An extra heavy load of baggage? Cliff Date: 10/22/14 17:58 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: PHall m420 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > No plow > > Isn't that unusual? Is this a SSW or T&NO unit? The second unit doesn't have a plow either. Date: 10/22/14 18:14 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: BoilingMan No, the PA's assigned to the So Calif pools never had plows. (and the SSW units didn't have the lower headlight)
SR m420 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No plow > > Isn't that unusual? Is this a SSW or T&NO unit? Date: 10/22/14 18:58 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: agentatascadero It's difficult for me to tell how many cars are in the consist...but, given those 4 units (matched..2 PAs, @2 E-7s), the train should be at or near 20 cars. Back in the day, when I saw this train run up to 22 cars, it never carried a full baggage car. Disclaimer: the Noon Daylight did routinely carry a full baggage car, plus the combine...which housed the news agent set up...quite extensive too. There seem to be a number of "unusual occurrences" in this photo., which is very evocative of the SP of old. AA
Stanford White Carmel Valley, CA Date: 10/22/14 20:36 Re: Coast Daylight grabbing orders at Santa Barbara 196 Author: hogheaded SLOCONDR Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > hogheaded Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Nice, Bob! > > > > This very spot is where I first climbed onto an > SP > > caboose as a brakeman. Foghorn Fagan, > conductor. > > > > -E.O. > > > Bill was one of the best SLO had to offer!!! I only have this one trip to judge Conductor Fagan, and all that I can say is that he was extremely kindly. We were a patch crew for a west train that had considerable work to do at Guadalupe, so, noting that we two extra brakeman looked awfully green, he asked us who was the senior. I had 2 1/2 months seniority working as a switchman, and the other guy had all of 9 months braking, so he wisely elected to ride the head end with the "senior" man. I swung up onto the caboose absolutely alone, and was a duck totally out of water since I had never worked a freight train, let alone ridden a caboose. I had no idea what to do, which was highlighted by our frustrated engineer on the radio when I failed to highball draggers and speed restrictions. Foghorn dropped back to the caboose after finishing sorting-out Guadalupe, and made it clear that he understood my situation. His main concern seemed to be maximizing the tie-up, because he was working the black market and wanted to tie-by his regular West End job. A young guy couldn't have worked with a nicer guy, excepting maybe Dink and V.R. Swain, who treated me like a grandchild. -E.O. |