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Date: 12/02/16 19:11
SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: photobob

On a hot July morning in 1960 I hopped on my Schwinn and peddled up to Glendale to take a few train photos. Here's one I got of a Baldwin leading a local just north of the station.

Robert Morris Photography




Date: 12/02/16 19:19
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: warrenpweiss

Likely headed for the Burbank branch.  The Baldwin road switchers were the engine of choice on that line back then.

Warren



Date: 12/02/16 19:35
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: MartyBernard

5245 was a Baldwin DRS-6-6-1500.  I read that as a Diesel Road Switcher with 2 6-wheel trucks and 1500 hp.

Thansks Bob.

Marty



Date: 12/02/16 20:24
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: ExStarlightHog

Very sad that all of this now belongs to the Big Yellow railroad. 



Date: 12/02/16 20:53
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: PHall

ExStarlightHog Wrote:
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> Very sad that all of this now belongs to the Big
> Yellow railroad. 

I believe it belongs to Metrolink now.



Date: 12/02/16 21:06
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: mcfflyer

MartyBernard Wrote:
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> 5245 was a Baldwin DRS-6-6-1500.  I read that as
> a Diesel Road Switcher with 2 6-wheel trucks and
> 1500 hp.
>
> Thansks Bob.
>
> Marty

Marty, the 5245 was actually the slightly upgraded AS616, that replaced the DRS series in mid 1950, and the 5245 was constructed in March 1951.

Lee Hower - Sacramento



Date: 12/02/16 21:18
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: MartyBernard

Lee, that's not what this roster says http://espee.railfan.net/1966rost.html and it is on the Internet, so it must be true.  (-:   Does this set of rosters have a lot of errors because I have been using it pretty heavily?

Marty



Date: 12/02/16 21:23
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: JimBaker

Would that bridge be Los Feliz Blvd.under the train?
I remember seeing the Daylight crossing at grade here back in the 1950s.

--Jim Baker

James R.(Jim) Baker
Whittier, CA



Date: 12/02/16 21:51
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: mwbridgwater

MartyBernard Wrote:
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> 5245 was a Baldwin DRS-6-6-1500.  I read that as
> a Diesel Road Switcher with 2 6-wheel trucks and
> 1500 hp.

Stands for Diesel Road Switcher, 6 axles, 6 axles powered, 1500 HP  (As opposed to, for instance, a DRS-6-4-1500 which had an A-1-A wheel arrangement where the center axles were idlers.).

Mark



Date: 12/02/16 23:41
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: wabash2800

Those big baldwins were built like tanks. I wish my favorite railroad would have had them. At least it had some Train Masters...

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com



Date: 12/03/16 18:46
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: Evan_Werkema

MartyBernard Wrote:

> Lee, that's not what this roster
> says http://espee.railfan.net/1966rost.html and
> it is on the Internet, so it must be true. 
> (-:   Does this set of rosters have a lot of
> errors because I have been using it pretty
> heavily?

Mr. Percy has this note at the top of the 1967 roster:

"There is a confusion over Baldwin model designations, not surprising considering Baldwin's tendency to change them."

Over in the "Diesel Loco Index" part of site, the 5245 is listed on the AS-616 page:

http://espee.railfan.net/spas-616.html

wabash2800 Wrote:

> Those big baldwins were built like tanks.

Slow, rough-riding, hard on tracks, and maintenance intensive?



Date: 12/03/16 20:32
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: DNRY122

The six-motor Balldwins were tried on at least one of the Pacific Electric lines, but the tight curves and light-weight rail did not agree with them.  One of them, 5208 (?) is preserved at the State RR Museum in Sacramento.
 



Date: 12/03/16 20:33
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: BobP

JimBaker Wrote:
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> Would that bridge be Los Feliz Blvd.under the
> train?
> I remember seeing the Daylight crossing at grade
> here back in the 1950s.
>
> --Jim Baker

I think you are right.



Date: 12/03/16 22:18
Re: SP X-5245 West at Glendale 1960
Author: mcfflyer

MartyBernard Wrote:
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> Lee, that's not what this roster
> says http://espee.railfan.net/1966rost.html and
> it is on the Internet, so it must be true. 
> (-:   Does this set of rosters have a lot of
> errors because I have been using it pretty
> heavily?
>
> Marty

Marty, Joe Strapac's SP Diesel Compendium refers to it as an AS616.

Lee



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