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Date: 09/19/19 14:41
UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: donstrack

Here is an Emil Albrecht photo of UP 4-12-2 9046, with a train. But there is no date or location. Anyone care to guess as to the location?

As a tech note, it is a 4-1/4 by 2-1/2 negative, and I scanned it as a 16-bit image. The sky seems to have a bit more drama compared to an 8-bit image.

Don Strack




Date: 09/19/19 15:51
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: mamfahr

> Here is an Emil Albrecht photo of UP 4-12-2 9046, with a train. But there is no date or location.

Hello Don,

I'd guess somewhere along the Montpelier - McCammon portion of the OSL.  Emil had other photos in that area and the 4-12-2s were regular power on that line around that time.

The TO version of the image doesn't have enough resolution to be helpful, but if you can zoom in on your version perhaps the signal number and/or train indicator might give us some helpful information.

Take care,

Mark



Date: 09/19/19 16:20
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: E25

'Looks like double track, though.

Greg Stadter
Phoenix, AZ



Date: 09/19/19 16:23
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: donstrack

mamfahr Wrote:
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> The TO version of the image doesn't have enough
> resolution to be helpful, but if you can zoom in
> on your version perhaps the signal number and/or
> train indicator might give us some helpful
> information.
>

Sad to say, the overall resolution isn't very good, which explains why it is in the "Extras, Duplicates, Not to be mounted" box. The signal number isn't readable, and the engine number board is just barely readable.

Don Strack



Date: 09/19/19 20:47
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: CPR_4000

First car looks like a ventilated boxcar? Pretty unusual. Can you make out the roadname?



Date: 09/19/19 22:19
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: RickL

I think it's "Southern"
Possibly like this:
RickL
 




Date: 09/19/19 22:55
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: ts1457

RickL Wrote:
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> I think it's "Southern"
> Possibly like this:
> RickL

Thanks, but it looks more like a Seaboard Air Line vent to me, and they had a lot more than Southern Railway late steam era.



Date: 09/20/19 03:10
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: donstrack

ts1457 Wrote:
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> Thanks, but it looks more like a Seaboard Air Line
> vent to me, and they had a lot more than Southern
> Railway late steam era.

Seaboard 29246.




Date: 09/20/19 07:09
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: mamfahr

> 'Looks like double track, though.

Hello,

Could be, can't really tell.  If so, it narrows the possible locations down to just the three segments of double track that existed on that OSL line - around Kemmerer, near Montpelier, and west of Blaser.

Take care,

Mark



 



Date: 09/20/19 08:38
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: RickL

I was guessing, I didn't really try to blow up the photo. Nice read on yours!

RickL
Houston, TX.



Date: 09/20/19 09:14
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: mamfahr

So what products were typically handled in those cars? 

Could it have handled livestock?  I'm curious about that since the car was handled on the headend of the train.

Take care,

Mark



Date: 09/20/19 09:37
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: ts1457

donstrack Wrote:
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> Seaboard 29246.

Thank you!

That is a great negative.



Date: 09/20/19 09:45
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: ts1457

mamfahr Wrote:
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> So what products were typically handled in those
> cars? 
>
> Could it have handled livestock?  I'm curious
> about that since the car was handled on the
> headend of the train.
>
> Take care,
>
> Mark

Probably keeping a close watch on the watermelons.

Ventiltated box cars were often called watermellon box cars. With the vent doors in place, it probably is handling some sort of produce which does not require refrigeration, but could use some air flow. With the solid doors, it could haul any type of boxcar freight which would not contaminate the car. It normally would not be used for livestock.

The ventilated boxcars were very popular on southeastern railroads during the steam era.

Hope this helps.


 



Date: 09/20/19 09:47
Re: UP 4-12-2 9046, Location?
Author: ts1457

RickL Wrote:
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> I was guessing, I didn't really try to blow up the
> photo. Nice read on yours!
>
> RickL
> Houston, TX

Good guess. They are not much different in appearance. I enjoyed seeing the picture of the Southern car.
 



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