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Date: 10/14/21 10:05
Lytton, BC wildfire destruction NOT caused by railway operations
Author: Marcus

The Transportation Safety Board has concluded its investigation
after the town of Lytton was destroyed by wildfire;

"The TSB investigation has not identified any link between railway operations and the fire."


https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/enquetes-investigations/rail/2021/r21v0143/r21v0143.html

https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/medias-media/communiques/rail/2021/r21v0143-20211014.html



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/21 10:27 by Marcus.



Date: 10/14/21 12:46
Re: Lytton, BC wildfire destruction NOT caused by railway operati
Author: dxm332

It is going to interesting to watch all the liars, err lawyers, trying to say the transportation safety board made the wrong conclusion. The lawyers were lining up the lawsuits before the fire was out.

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Date: 10/14/21 14:12
Re: Lytton, BC wildfire destruction NOT caused by railway operati
Author: jofegan

The linked article is an interesting read for anyone wanting to know what sort of investigation goes into these matters.

--j



Date: 10/14/21 15:16
Re: Lytton, BC wildfire destruction NOT caused by railway operati
Author: PHall

The "debate" about this on CBC Vancouver today was interesting. This will end up in the courts with "experts" of all kinds weighing in and getting paid.



Date: 10/14/21 15:59
Re: Lytton, BC wildfire destruction NOT caused by railway operati
Author: TCnR

Lots of info in the links. Here's some info from CBC News, not sure where the story is going:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/lytton-fire-trains-tsb-report-1.6210790

"The fire started "within five feet" — or less than two metres — from the centre of CN Rail track west of the village core, according to the TSB.

A westbound CP coal train run by CN crews was the last train to pass through the area, 18 minutes before the first reports of flames."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/21 17:32 by TCnR.



Date: 10/14/21 18:25
Re: Lytton, BC wildfire destruction NOT caused by railway operati
Author: railsmith

Marcus Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Transportation Safety Board has concluded its
> investigation
> after the town of Lytton was destroyed by
> wildfire;
>
> "The TSB investigation has not identified any link
> between railway operations and the fire."

The report states: "The CP train C73152-29 was operated by a CN crew as this section of track is under a directional running agreement between CN and CP. Loaded trains of both railways operate westward on the CN Ashcroft Subdivision and empty trains of both railways operate eastward on the CP Thompson Subdivision."

That is not the reason this loaded coal train was operated by a CN crew. Both CN and CP crews operate trains over each other's railways in the Directional Running Zone. If this were a westbound CP intermodal train, for example, it would have had a CP crew, even though it is on CN track.

The reason that this train with CP locomotives had a CN crew is that it was interchanged from CP to CN at Kamloops, and became a CN train at that point (with a CN train number), pursuant to CN's contract with Teck Resources that took effect in April. This train is bound for Neptune Bulk Terminals in North Vancouver, and CN handles both the loaded and empty movements between Kamloops and Neptune. CP handles the movements between Kamloops and the mines, running under CP train symbols.

This has nothing to do with the fire investigation, but I'm surprised that a TSB report would make that basic mistake.


 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/21 18:26 by railsmith.



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