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Date: 01/16/21 01:36
Switzerland old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

i took these videos at Airolo on the Italian side of the old Gotthard Route ,just before most trains were re routed to the new by pass basis tunnel a few years ago



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/21 01:34 by bakersfielddave.

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Date: 01/16/21 03:23
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: railsmith

bakersfielddave Wrote:
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> i took these videos at Airolo on the Italian side
> of the old Gotthard Route ,just before most trains
> were re routed to the new by pass basis tunnel a
> few years ago

Brrr -- that looks chilly.  It's still Switzerland though -- Airolo is in the Italian-speaking canton of Ticino.



Date: 01/16/21 09:04
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: WP17

railsmith Wrote:
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> bakersfielddave Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > i took these videos at Airolo on the Italian
> side
> > of the old Gotthard Route ,just before most
> trains
> > were re routed to the new by pass basis tunnel
> a
> > few years ago
>
Five years ago a small group of us (US mileage collectors) spent over a week riding trains all around Switzerland. One of my memories is how the languages on the PA changed after we headed south through the Gotthard Tunnel. All annoucements north of the tunnel were in German, French, and English but then south of the tunnel Italian and English. I had been spending several weeks in Italy before meeting my buddies in Switzerland and I was surprised to start hearing announcements such as "prossima fermata" that I had been hearing all through Italy:-)

WP17



> Brrr -- that looks chilly.  It's still
> Switzerland though -- Airolo is in the
> Italian-speaking canton of Ticino.



Date: 01/16/21 17:50
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

railsmith Wrote:
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> bakersfielddave Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > i took these videos at Airolo on the Italian
> side
> > of the old Gotthard Route ,just before most
> trains
> > were re routed to the new by pass basis tunnel
> a
> > few years ago
>
> Brrr -- that looks chilly.  It's still
> Switzerland though -- Airolo is in the
> Italian-speaking canton of Ticino.

yes when i left Chiasso for Milan it was Italy  then  the structure of the houses on the Swiss Italian side of the border changed to Italianate also 



Date: 01/18/21 05:28
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: colehour

WP17 Wrote:

> >
> Five years ago a small group of us (US mileage
> collectors) spent over a week riding trains all
> around Switzerland. One of my memories is how the
> languages on the PA changed after we headed south
> through the Gotthard Tunnel. All annoucements
> north of the tunnel were in German, French, and
> English but then south of the tunnel Italian and
> English. I had been spending several weeks in
> Italy before meeting my buddies in Switzerland and
> I was surprised to start hearing announcements
> such as "prossima fermata" that I had been hearing
> all through Italy:-)

In the Trentino-Alto Adige region, announcements are in Italian and German. I am not sure about Val d'Aosta, but it would not be surprising if announcements in that region were also in French. 
Just a bit of loosely related trivia here: there is an Italian "exclave" completely surrounded by the Swiss canton of Ticino. It is legally a part of Italy, and only Italian is spoken there. There are several of these exclaves in Europe, I believe. 
 



Date: 01/18/21 08:21
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: pennengineer

colehour Wrote:
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> WP17 Wrote:
>
> > >
> > Five years ago a small group of us (US mileage
> > collectors) spent over a week riding trains all
> > around Switzerland. One of my memories is how
> the
> > languages on the PA changed after we headed
> south
> > through the Gotthard Tunnel. All annoucements
> > north of the tunnel were in German, French,
> and
> > English but then south of the tunnel Italian
> and
> > English. I had been spending several weeks in
> > Italy before meeting my buddies in Switzerland
> and
> > I was surprised to start hearing announcements
> > such as "prossima fermata" that I had been
> hearing
> > all through Italy:-)
>
> In the Trentino-Alto Adige region, announcements
> are in Italian and German. I am not sure about Val
> d'Aosta, but it would not be surprising if
> announcements in that region were also in
> French. 
> Just a bit of loosely related trivia here: there
> is an Italian "exclave" completely surrounded by
> the Swiss canton of Ticino. It is legally a part
> of Italy, and only Italian is spoken there. There
> are several of these exclaves in Europe, I
> believe. 
>  

Yup, Campione d'Italia. Pretty interesting historical footnote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campione_d%27Italia



Date: 01/21/21 17:22
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

some pictures from my visit and a side  trip to Andermatt from Goschenen in snow






Date: 01/21/21 17:23
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:23
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:24
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:25
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:26
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:27
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:28
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:29
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:30
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

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Date: 01/21/21 17:31
Re: Switzerland Italy old Gotthard Pass in snow
Author: bakersfielddave

Switzerlands railways are fantastic






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