Eastern Railroad Discussion > Updated Norfolk Southern train symbols

A - Alabama Division locals
B - Dearborn Division locals 
C - Pittsburgh Division locals
D - Illinois Division locals 
E - Piedmont Division locals (extras)
F - foreign railroad 
G - Georgia Division locals 
H - Harrisburg Division locals 
I - additional / delayed 200 / 20alpha series
J - Pocahontas Division locals 
K - Harrisburg Division locals 
L - Lake Division locals 
M - additional or delayed 100 / 10alpha series
N - Pittsburgh Division locals 
O - additional or delayed 900 / 90alpha series 
P - Piedmont Division locals 
Q - additional or delayed 700 / 70alpha series
R - additional or delayed 000 / 00alpha series
S - additional or delayed 800 / 80alpha series 
T - ex Central Division locals 
U - Pocahontas Division locals 
V - Pocahontas Division locals (ex Virginia Division)
W - additional or delayed 300 / 30alpha series
X - additional or delayed 400 / 40alpha series
Y - additional or delayed 500 / 50alpha series
Z - additional or delayed 600 / 60alpha series

Included are the scheduled intermodal, autorack, manifest, and locals trains.  Select scheduled unit trains are also included.  Trains are grouped according to NS’ designations.

•premium intermodal

20E Chicago 63rd St, IL - Croxton, NJ daily
20K Chicago 63rd St, IL - Croxton, NJ daily
20W Chicago Ashland Ave, IL (BNSF Z LACNYC) - Croxton, NJ Fr-Tu
203 Rutherford, PA - Atlanta, GA Tu-Sa
204 Atlanta, GA - Rutherford, PA Tu-Sa
205 Buffalo, NY - Chicago 63rd St, IL daily
206 Chicago 63rd St, IL - Buffalo, NY daily
209 Atlanta, GA - Jacksonville, FL (FEC) daily
21E Morrisville, PA - Chicago 47th St, IL daily
21J Rutherford, PA - Chicago 63rd St, IL daily
21M Croxton, NJ - Chicago 63rd St, IL daily
21Z Rutherford, PA - Chicago 63rd St, IL daily
211 Croxton, NJ - Atlanta, GA Tu-Su
212 Atlanta, GA - Croxton, NJ Tu-Su
213 Rutherford, PA - Atlanta, GA daily
214 Atlanta, GA - Rutherford, PA Tu-Su
215 Chicago Calumet, IL - Atlanta, GA daily
216 Atlanta, GA - Chicago Calumet, IL daily
217 Charlotte, NC - Chicago Calumet, IL Mo-Th, Sa
218 Chicago Calumet, IL - Charlotte, NC daily
219 Atlanta, GA - Meridian, MS (KCS IATDA) daily
22W Chicago 63rd St, IL - Rutherford, PA daily
220 Meridian, MS (KCS IDAAT) - Atlanta, GA daily
225 Atlanta, GA - Shreveport, LA (KCS IZAILC / UP ZAILC) daily
226 Shreveport, LA (UP ZLCAI / KCS IZLCAI) - Atlanta, GA daily
229 Chicago Landers, IL - Jacksonville, FL Sa-Th
229 Chicago Landers, IL - Jacksonville, FL (FEC) Fr
24M Chicago 63rd St, IL - Baltimore, MD daily
255 Detroit Oakwood, MI - Voltz, MO Tu-Su
256 Kansas City, MO - Detroit Oakwood, MI Mo-Sa
26E Chicago 47th St, IL - Morrisville, PA daily
264 Memphis, TN (BNSF Z SBDAUG) - Atlanta, GA Fr-Tu
265 Atlanta, GA - Memphis, TN (BNSF Z AUGSBD) Tu-Sa
282 Jacksonville, FL - Chicago Landers, IL daily
291 Atlanta, GA - Jacksonville, FL daily

•standard intermodal 

20D Greer, SC - Charleston, SC Mo-Sa
20N Toledo Airline, OH - Columbus Rickenbacker, OH daily
20Q Chicago 47th St, IL - Harrisburg, PA daily
20R Chicago Landers, IL - Port Newark, NJ Mo-Sa
20T Kansas City, MO - Harrisburg, PA daily
20V Harrisburg, PA - Bethlehem, PA daily
200 Danville, KY - Global 2, IL (UP) daily
201 Rutherford, PA - Rossville, TN daily
202 Rossville, TN - Rutherford, PA daily
21D Charleston, SC - Greer, SC Mo-Sa
21G Harrisburg, PA - Corwith, IL (BNSF Q NYCLAC) Tu-Su
21N Detroit Livernois, MI - Columbus Rickenbacker, OH daily
21Q Harrisburg, PA - Chicago 47th St, IL daily
21T Harrisburg, PA - Voltz, MO daily
21V Bethlehem, PA - Harrisburg, PA daily
210 Jacksonville, FL (FEC) - Atlanta, GA daily
22A Norfolk, VA - Louisville, KY daily 
22G Shreveport, LA (UP ILBNS / KCS ILBNS) - Atlanta, GA daily
22K Chicago 47th St, IL - Mechanicville, NY (PAS) daily
22N Rossville, TN - Atlanta, GA daily
22V Harrisburg, PA - Elizabeth Marine, NJ daily
221 Charlotte, NC - Atlanta, GA daily
222 Atlanta, GA - Charlotte, NC daily
223 Kansas City, MO - Atlanta, GA daily
224 Atlanta, GA - Kansas City, MO daily
227 Norfolk, VA - Harrisburg, PA daily
228 Harrisburg, PA - Norfolk, VA daily
23E Atlanta, GA - Meridian, MS (KCS IATDA2) Th-Mo
23G Louisville, KY - Norfolk, VA daily
23K Mechanicville, NY (PAS) - Chicago 47th St, IL daily
23M Port Newark, NJ - Global 2, IL (UP) Tu-Su
23M Port Newark, NJ - Harrisburg, PA Mo
23N Atlanta, GA - Rossville, TN daily
23W Baltimore, MD - Harrisburg, PA Mo-Sa
23Z Croxton, NJ - Chicago 63rd St, IL daily
230 Jacksonville, FL - Atlanta, GA daily
231 Garden City, GA - Austell, GA daily
232 Austell, GA - Garden City, GA daily 
233 Norfolk, VA - Chicago Landers, IL daily
234 Chicago Landers, IL - Norfolk, VA daily
236 Columbus Rickenbacker, OH - Norfolk, VA Tu-Sa
237 Charleston, SC - Atlanta, GA Tu-Su
238 Atlanta, GA - Charleston, SC daily 
24E Meridian, MS (KCS IMYNS / IDAAT2) - Atlanta, GA Tu, Th-Su
24Q Charleston, SC - Elizabeth Marine, NJ Su
24Z Chicago Ashland Ave, IL - Harrisburg, PA daily
25A Chicago Calumet, IL - Danville, KY daily
25N Columbus Rickenbacker, OH - Corwith, IL (BNSF) daily
25Q Atlanta, GA - Memphis, TN (UP IMEMN) Sa-Th
25T Morrisville, PA - Harrisburg, PA daily
25V Port Newark, NJ - Chicago Landers, IL Su-Fr
25W Croxton, NJ - Chicago 63rd St, IL Su
25Z Erail, NJ - Chicago 47th St, IL Mo-Sa
26N Chicago Ashland Ave, IL - Columbus Rickenbacker, OH daily
26Q Rossville, TN - Atlanta, GA We, Fr
26T Harrisburg, PA - Morrisville, PA daily 
26Z Cincinnati, OH - Columbus Rickenbacker, OH daily
27Z Columbus Rickenbacker, OH - Cincinnati, OH daily
29G Norfolk, VA - Detroit North Yard, MI daily
294 Chicago 47th St, IL - Erail, NJ daily

•autorack

10A McCalla, AL - Rosser, GA Tu-Su
10T Greer, SC - Charleston, SC daily
11A Rosser, GA - McCalla, AL Mo-Sa
11A Anguilla Jct, GA - McCalla, AL Su-Fr
11J Newark Doremus, NJ - Allentown, PA daily 
11N Conway, PA - Sterling Heights, MI daily
11T Charleston, SC - Greer, SC Mo-Sa
110 Louisville, KY - Kansas City, MO (UP) daily
124 Jacksonville Westlake, FL - Princeton, IN daily
13J Kansas City, MO - Hammond, IN (IHB Gibson) daily
18N Conway, PA - Newark Doremus, NJ daily 
31M Sterling Heights, MI - Hammond, IN (IHB Gibson) daily

•manifest

10K Conway, PA - Allentown, PA daily
10R Cicero, IL (BNSF H GALNSI) - Elkhart, IN daily
101 Bulls Gap, TN - Memphis, TN (UP MSFPB) daily
102 Sheffield, AL - Bulls Gap, TN daily
109 Chattanooga, TN - Birmingham, AL daily
11R Mechanicville, NY (PAS) - East Binghamton, NY daily
11V Enola, PA - Conway, PA daily
11Z East Binghamton, NY - Roanoke, VA daily
111 Kansas City, MO - St. Louis, MO daily
112 St. Louis, MO - Kansas City, KS (BNSF) daily
115 Decatur, IL - Kansas City, MO (UP) daily
12G Conway, PA - Enola, PA daily
12N Chicago Rockwell St, IL (CP G52) - Elkhart, IN daily
12Q Elkhart, IN - Conway, PA daily
12R Columbia, SC - Enola, PA daily
12Z Roanoke, VA - East Binghamton, NY daily
120 Kansas City, MO - Sterling Heights, MI daily
121 Sterling Heights, MI - Decatur, IL daily
122 Chattanooga, TN - Decatur, IL daily
123 East Decatur, IL - Chattanooga, TN daily
125 Kansas City, MO - Jacksonville, FL daily
126 Chattanooga, TN - Roanoke, VA daily 
127 Roanoke, VA - Chattanooga, TN daily
13Q Conway, PA - Elkhart, IN daily
13R Enola, PA - Columbia, SC daily
130 New Orleans, LA (UP) - Chattanooga, TN daily
131 Chattanooga, TN - New Orleans, LA daily
134 Roanoke, VA - Charlotte, NC daily
135 Asheville, NC - Knoxville Sevier, TN Tu-Sa
136 Knoxville Sevier, TN - Asheville, NC Mo-Fr
14G Enola, PA - Morrisville, PA daily
14N Elkhart, IN - Conway, PA daily
14Q East Decatur, IL - Portsmouth, OH daily
142 Birmingham, AL - Elkhart, IN daily
143 Elkhart, IN - Chattanooga, AL daily 
145 Bellevue, OH - Decatur, IL daily
148 Kansas City, MO - Bellevue, OH daily
15E Decatur, IL - East St. Louis, IL (ALS Gateway) daily
15N Conway, PA - Elkhart, IN daily
15Q Portsmouth, OH - Decatur, IL daily
15T Allentown, PA - Birmingham, AL daily
151 Macon, GA - Valdosta, GA daily
152 Valdosta, GA - Macon, GA daily
153 Greensboro, NC - Birmingham, AL daily
154 Birmingham, AL - Greensboro, NC daily 
16A Memphis, TN (BNSF) - Sheffield, AL daily
16G Bedford Park, IL (BRC Clearing) - Conway, PA daily
16R East Binghamton, NY - Mechanicville, NY (PAS) daily
16T Birmingham, AL - Allentown, PA daily
16Z Memphis, TN (UP MNLSF) - Sheffield, AL daily
165 Charlotte, NC - Roanoke, VA daily
167 St. Louis, MO - Chattanooga, TN daily
168 Louisville, KY - Granite City, IL daily 
17A Sheffield, AL - Memphis, TN (BNSF) daily
17G Morrisville, PA - Enola, PA daily
17N Conway, PA - Bedford Park, IL (BRC Clearing) daily
17V Elkhart, IN - Bensenville, IL (CP) daily
170 Chattanooga, TN - Conway, PA daily
171 Conway, PA - Chattanooga, TN daily
172 Chattanooga, TN - Louisville, KY daily
174 Macon, GA - Elkhart, IN daily
175 Chattanooga, TN - Macon, GA daily
177 Elkhart, IN - Macon, GA daily
178 Birmingham, AL - Buffalo, NY daily
179 Buffalo, NY - Birmingham, AL daily
18A Chicago Ashland Ave, IL (UP MNPAH) - Elkhart, IN daily
18G Allentown, PA - Croxton, NJ daily
18K East Decatur, IL - Elkhart, IN daily
18M Elkhart, IN - Crewe, VA daily
181 Detroit Oakwood, MI - Kansas City, MO daily
182 Calvert, AL - Birmingham, AL daily
183 Birmingham, AL - Calvert, AL daily
186 Birmingham, AL - Macon, GA daily
187 Macon, GA - Birmingham, AL daily
188 East Point, GA - Detroit Oakwood, MI daily
189 Detroit Oakwood, MI - Chattanooga, TN daily
19G Croxton, NJ - Enola, PA daily
19K Elkhart, IN - Decatur, IL daily
19M Crewe, VA - Elkhart, IN daily
191 Columbia, SC - Macon, GA daily
192 Macon, GA - Columbia, SC daily
194 Bellevue, OH - Greensboro, NC daily
195 Selma, NC - Bellevue, OH daily
196 Cincinnati, OH - Ft. Wayne, IN daily
197 Ft. Wayne, IN - Cincinnati, OH daily
30A Enola, PA - Allentown, PA daily
30N Madison, IL (TRRA) - East Decatur, IL daily
30Q Chicago Calumet, IL - Elkhart, IN daily
30T Saratoga Springs, NY (CP) - East Binghamton, NY daily
308 St. Louis, MO - East Decatur, IL daily
309 East Binghamton, NY - Elkhart, IN daily
31N Decatur, IL - Madison, IL (TRRA) daily
31Q Elkhart, IN - Chicago Calumet, IL daily
31T East Binghamton, NY - Saratoga Springs, NY (CP) daily
310 Elkhart, IN - East Binghamton, NY daily
311 Decatur, IL - St. Louis, MO daily
314 New Orleans, LA - Birmingham, AL daily
317 Conway, PA - Mingo Junction, OH daily
318 Mingo Junction, OH - Conway, PA daily
32N Madison, IL (TRRA) - Conway, PA daily
320 Sheffield, AL - Birmingham, AL daily
321 Macon, GA - Jacksonville, FL (FEC) daily
329 Birmingham, AL - Sheffield, AL daily
33G Elkhart, IN - Cicero, IL (BNSF H NSINTW) daily
330 Jacksonville, FL (FEC) - Macon, GA daily
331 Detroit Oakwood, MI - Bellevue, OH daily
332 Bellevue, OH - Wayne, MI daily
333 Sterling Heights, MI - Bellevue, OH daily
336 Toledo Airline, OH - Bellevue, OH daily
339 Birmingham, AL - Meridian, MS (KCS MNSJA) daily
34A Allentown, PA - Conway, PA daily
34G Bedford Park, IL (BRC Clearing) - Elkhart, IN daily
34J Blue Island, IL (IHB) - Elkhart, IN daily
340 Meridian, MS (KCS MSHNS) - Birmingham, AL daily
341 Birmingham, AL - Selma, AL daily
342 Selma, AL - Birmingham, AL daily
344 New Orleans, LA (UP) - Birmingham, AL daily
345 Birmingham, AL - New Orleans, LA (UP) daily
347 Chattanooga, TN - East Point, GA daily
35J Elkhart, IN - Blue Island, IL (IHB) daily
35N Conway, PA - East St. Louis, IL (ALS) daily
350 Greensboro, NC - Selma, NC daily
353 Bellevue, OH - Toledo Airline, OH daily
355 Birmingham, AL - New Orleans, LA daily
356 Albany, GA - Macon, GA daily
357 Macon, GA - Albany, GA daily
358 Elkhart, IN - Detroit Oakwood, MI daily
36A Conway, PA - Edgemoor, DE daily
360 Macon, GA - Chattanooga, TN daily
361 Chattanooga, TN - Macon, GA daily
362 Sheffield, AL - Chattanooga, TN daily
365 Chattanooga, TN - Sheffield, AL daily
37A Edgemoor, DE - Conway, PA daily
37E Elkhart, IN - Bedford Park, IL (BRC Clearing) daily
37M Elkhart, IN - Bedford Park, IL (BRC Clearing) daily
370 Greenville, SC - Chattanooga, TN daily
371 Chattanooga, TN - Greenville, SC daily
372 Macon, GA - Savannah, GA daily
373 Savannah, GA - Birmingham, AL daily
375 Middletown, OH - Rockport, IN daily
376 Rockport, IN - Middletown, OH daily
377 Savannah, GA - Macon, GA daily
378 Birmingham, AL - Savannah, GA daily
38G Conway, PA - Abrams, PA daily 
384 Mobile, AL - Birmingham, AL daily
385 Birmingham, AL - Mobile, AL daily
39G Abrams, PA - Conway, PA daily
392 Portsmouth, OH - Winston-Salem, NC daily
393 Winston-Salem, NC - Portsmouth, OH daily

Andrew



Edited 666 time(s). Last edit at 09/27/20 21:55 by florida581.

im surprised to see 2 seperate trains from CROXTON and OAK ISLAND to ALLENTOWN

Out_Of_Service Wrote:
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> im surprised to see 2 seperate trains from CROXTON
> and OAK ISLAND to ALLENTOWN


Of course I have to take the word of the fans in the area. They told me that 32A and 33K were long time Allentown-Croxton trains and 18G and 19G were Conway-Oak Island trains. It wasn't until recently 18G started originating at Allentown.

Andrew

I just saw 25V this afternoon in Toledo, so there must now be at least some occasion for it go west of Harrisburg. It was a very short train today.

While NS #178 may handle CN interchange from Detroit, I do not believe it is strictly a CN run-through the way #184 is at Toledo.

NS #369 is a turn to Fort Erie, Ontario (ON), not New York.

Is #316 really a Bellevue-Buffalo turn? That's a 250-mile trip one way.

I'm pretty sure CP still runs a #243 over the NS between Detroit and Chicago that runs under a #33T symbol.

Finally, it was my understanding that #31M terminates at IHB's Gibson Yard in Indiana, rather than going all the way to Blue Island Yard in Chicago.

Corrections on any or all of the above welcomed.

Along the same thread can anybody please say where the letter symbols come from. I Know they are division related Is the letter an origin point or a detestation point?

I was just curious and thank you.

Carl

Carl Wrote:
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> Along the same thread can anybody please say where
> the letter symbols come from. I Know they are
> division related Is the letter an origin point or
> a destination point?
>
> I was just curious and thank you.
>
> Carl


The letters in the third position (e.g., 10R, 31M) have no geographic reference that I can identify. NS started using that system during integration of its portion of Conrail because without the letters, it expected to run out of three-digit road symbols.

A letter in the first position can indicate either an extra section or a divisional wayfreight, depending on which letter it is. There have been numerous threads to explain how this works. A train with two letters and two numbers is either a yard job/terminal transfer or a foreign-line train, again depending on the particular letters.

For auto trains, the 18N/11J pair take care of new vehicles from the midwest to Doremus Ave. I believe 18N starts in Bellevue and 11J--mostly empties--ends up in Toledo? Elkhart? (I know it's changed over the years).

JG



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/12 17:14 by jgilmore.

Scratch 19A, no longer runs. 316 is not a turn. 25V is daily to Chicago except Sunday, keep in mind you might see a 25V close to Chicago on Sunday but thats Saturdays train
169 is Conway-Sharonville, Oh., 180 Sharonville-Columbus



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/12 17:24 by esprrfan.

Anything starting with a 4, 5, or even a 6, is not even worth trying to figure out. These are bulk commodity trains, and the symbols are used provisionally, even more now than ever before. The sales groups have more input into the symbols used now, apparently for billing purposes. Often the customer will make a last-minute request to divert one of their shipments to a different facility than it was originally scheduled to go to. It is a little tougher for us in operations to keep track of, but we can check the scheduled route in the computer very easily. Also, the 900 series, being company-use symbols, are used as-needed. I think they are grouped by train type though; ie, rail, ballast, etc.

halfmoonharold Wrote:
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> Anything starting with a 4, 5, or even a 6, is not
> even worth trying to figure out. These are bulk
> commodity trains, and the symbols are used
> provisionally, even more now than ever before. The
> sales groups have more input into the symbols used
> now, apparently for billing purposes. Often the
> customer will make a last-minute request to divert
> one of their shipments to a different facility
> than it was originally scheduled to go to. It is a
> little tougher for us in operations to keep track
> of, but we can check the scheduled route in the
> computer very easily. Also, the 900 series, being
> company-use symbols, are used as-needed. I think
> they are grouped by train type though; ie, rail,
> ballast, etc.

I completely agree. The bulk commodity trains are a whole different can of worms. If someone wants to figure out those symbols, all power to them. However, some can be more predictable, especially coal trains. For instance, 732-741 are Memphis, TN(BNSF) - Plant Scherer, GA coal trains. Local freights are also fairly easy to obtain the train info.

Andrew

18N originates at the Fostoria Mixing Center, I believe. The power could run light down from Bellevue to get there. I'm pretty sure 11J goes up to Detroit. 14T, by the way, makes a stitch from Bellevue down to Fostoria Mixing and back on its way from Detroit to Buffalo.

There will be more Heartland Corridor-related changes coming up soon.

203 and 204 need the city pairs reversed. 203 runs Rutherford to Atlanta and 204 runs Atlanta to Rutherford.

Here's another fix: last I knew, 38E/39E go to/from Wayne, MI.

There is a "wiki" out there for the railroads. You've got a great list, and through the collaboration here, perhaps the wiki could be updated:

http://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/NS_Train_Symbols

EDIT: I'mm not trying to promote a competitor to Trainorders. I am mentioning another website I have stumbled across that provides a service (train symbols listing) that this site does not specifically provide. So, no disrespect towards Todd & Co. :)

-Eric



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/12 07:19 by sou2601.

Great list, one note, 308 is a Bellevue train that dies in Portsmouth, it gets split up and makes up the 188, pickup for the 194, and sometimes the 18m. I didn't see train 29g, it doesn't run all the time, but its an empty auto rack train that comes thru P-town and I think it dies in Fostoria.

One question: Years ago 10A/11A carried plenty of manifest daily from Conway to Reading, but the list above shows it cut back to Altoona. My question is how does the traffic for Spring St. get there nowadays? Setoff from one or more manifests that head for downtown Reading? I guess another question would be, If 10A/11A now only go as far as Altoona (if that info is correct), what happens to the traffic on these trains since it obviously is not just for Altoona? Seems like extra work to split up trains there when hump yards exist east and west of there.

Joel Gilmore

Just heard from a source that starting tomorrow, 229 will originate in Columbus, OH. There will be the addition of a #200 operating between Danville and Columbus.

-Eric

I don't think 123 is running any more, although I've heard rumors that it may start up again.

Kim Heusel

jgilmore Wrote:
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> One question: Years ago 10A/11A carried plenty of
> manifest daily from Conway to Reading, but the
> list above shows it cut back to Altoona. My
> question is how does the traffic for Spring St.
> get there nowadays? Setoff from one or more
> manifests that head for downtown Reading? I guess
> another question would be, If 10A/11A now only go
> as far as Altoona (if that info is correct), what
> happens to the traffic on these trains since it
> obviously is not just for Altoona? Seems like
> extra work to split up trains there when hump
> yards exist east and west of there.
>
> Joel Gilmore

I believe that traffic moves on one of the other manifests to Enola.
-Alex