Eastern Railroad Discussion > 2 fold question Akron/Hudson OH

What possessed NS to abandon the former PRR line from Hudson to Akron? I think that was in the mid 1990's.
Question 2 pertains to the infrastructure left behind. Rail, crossing signals, etc.. instead of pulling up and scrapping?
I know NS does use a section of this track adjacent the now torn down Hudson station for storage on occasion.
Thank you.
Rich S

Wasn't NS in the mid 1990's, that would be Conrail...

CG Tower

richs Wrote:
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> What possessed NS to abandon the former PRR line
> from Hudson to Akron? I think that was in the mid
> 1990's.
> Question 2 pertains to the infrastructure left
> behind. Rail, crossing signals, etc.. instead of
> pulling up and scrapping?
> I know NS does use a section of this track
> adjacent the now torn down Hudson station for
> storage on occasion.
> Thank you.
> Rich S

CGTower Wrote:
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> Wasn't NS in the mid 1990's, that would be
> Conrail...
>
> CG Tower

Oh shoot! I've got my head up my a** this morning.
Thanks for the wake up slap! :)
Rich S

People looking passenger service in this corridor see the PRR line as a vital part of any future corridor from Cleveland - Akron - Canton.

MEKoch Wrote:
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> People looking passenger service in this corridor
> see the PRR line as a vital part of any future
> corridor from Cleveland - Akron - Canton.


That pie in the sky trek would require running south out of
Akron on the WE, I presume? I can't conceptualize any other possibility.
Rich S

richs Wrote:
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>
> That pie in the sky trek would require running
> south out of
> Akron on the WE, I presume? I can't conceptualize
> any other possibility.
> Rich S

The old PRR line originally ran from Hudson down to Orville and Massillon. It was truncated to Warwick (Clinton) in early Conrail time frame.
The line from Akron (AY junction) to Warwick was a joint PRR/B&O operation, owned by Pennsy with B&O being a tenant — I believe. It may have been each road owned one of the mains.
The line from Hudson was later truncated to joining the CSX main in Cuyahoga Falls. CSX now owns the main from AY to Warwick.
Unless things have changed Akron Metro owns the line from beyond the Hudson wye (NS still owns the wye) to Cuyahoga Falls and the line from the CSX Akron Yard to Canton. The W&LE line to Canton is a separate line.
Future dreaming— the commuter line would probably run NS Cleveland to Hudson. Metro Hudson to Cuyahoga Falls. CSX Cuyahoga Falls to Akron Yard. Metro again fron Akron to Canton. Convoluted for sure, but not as bad as it sounds. Problem is that routing doesn’t go through downtown Akron.

Incidentally, there has been persistent talk of an operator running the line for a ways south of Hudson. There are several new industrial parks popping up along the line. Nothing concrete but the line has been cleared of weeds and trees at least twice.

The reason Conrail got rid of the line from Hudson to Akron was total lack of traffic.

Baltimore



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/18 13:32 by baltimore.

baltimore Wrote:
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> richs Wrote:
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>
> >
> >
> > That pie in the sky trek would require running
> > south out of
> > Akron on the WE, I presume? I can't
> conceptualize
> > any other possibility.
> > Rich S
>
> The old PRR line originally ran from Hudson down
> to Massillon. It was truncated to Warwick
> (Clinton) in early Conrail time frame.
> The line from Akron (AY junction) to Warwick was a
> joint PRR/B&O operation, owned by Pennsy with B&O
> being a tenant — I believe. It may have been
> each road owned one of the mains.
> The line from Hudson was later truncated to
> joining the CSX main in Cuyahoga Falls. CSX now
> owns the main from AY to Warwick.
> Unless things have changed Akron Metro owns the
> line from beyond the Hudson wye (NS still owns the
> wye) to Cuyahoga Falls and the line from the CSX
> Akron Yard to Canton. The W&LE line to Canton is a
> separate line.
> Future dreaming— the commuter line would
> probably run NS Cleveland to Hudson. Metro Hudson
> to Cuyahoga Falls. CSX Cuyahoga Falls to Akron
> Yard. Metro again fron Akron to Canton.
> Convoluted for sure, but not as bad as it sounds.
> Problem is that routing doesn’t go through
> downtown Akron.
>
> Incidentally, there has been persistent talk of an
> operator running the line for a ways south of
> Hudson. There are several new industrial parks
> popping up along the line. Nothing concrete but
> the line has been cleared of weeds and trees at
> least twice.
>
> The reason Conrail got rid of the line from Hudson
> to Akron was total lack of traffic.
>
> Baltimore

Thank you for this background information. I could see the service to those industrial parks being accomplished rather easily. Could not an
NS local do that, as they do go to Little Tykes regularly. Or, most likely it's business they want to overlook.

richs Wrote:
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> baltimore Wrote:
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> > richs Wrote:
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> Thank you for this background information. I
> could see the service to those industrial parks
> being accomplished rather easily. Could not an
> NS local do that, as they do go to Little Tykes
> regularly. Or, most likely it's business they want
> to overlook.

NS probably could although they don’t own the track. IIRC, the main push for the rail service came from a steel warehouse. Not sure if enough possible business to attract NS or any other operator.