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Date: 11/19/18 18:22
W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: funnelfan

Just got sent these pics of a head-on collision on the W&LE in Akron, OH today. Major damage to the locomotives involved, but thankfully no injuries. No other details.

Ted Curphey
Cheney, WA






Date: 11/19/18 18:29
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: MC6853

Thanks Ted, just deleted my duplicate post... Good to hear no injuries, as that looks pretty nasty...

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Date: 11/19/18 18:59
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: inCHI

Yes, glad to hear no injuries with something that looks that severe.



Date: 11/19/18 19:07
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: funnelfan

Location of the head-on;

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.06308,-81.43313&z=18&t=S

Ted Curphey
Cheney, WA



Date: 11/19/18 19:57
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: trainsfireengine

                                                       Here is a photo of the 304 and the 106 from September that is posted on the Wheeling and Lake Erie Facebook page.



https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31301510_10155175506491401_6890626993176444928_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=6e37a2c8dc926395bbfcab7a502fd40e&oe=5C7E884A



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/18 21:17 by trainsfireengine.



Date: 11/19/18 20:18
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: rbenko

Great to hear that there are no injuries.

Major bummer that a high-nose GP35 with Alco trucks has most likely turned its last wheel.



Date: 11/20/18 03:46
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: ns1000

Does anyone know a preliminary cause??

Glad no one got hurt...

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Date: 11/20/18 04:10
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: Forever-Railfan-45

Happened in the Akron, Ohio area. Word mentioned of a remote job that got loose; we shall see what the investigation comes up with. Most importantly no injuries.

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Date: 11/20/18 07:30
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: dash944cw

Scratch the 106 and the 304.
Sad.
Glad there were no "human" injuries.



Date: 11/20/18 08:51
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: WLE2679

Looks like the high nose protected the cab or it was the type of impact.



Date: 11/20/18 09:04
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: BAB

Thought they were AAR style trucks not Alco.



Date: 11/20/18 10:25
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: SD45X

DRGW 3080 RIP

Usually remotes are limited to 10mph.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/18 16:08 by SD45X.



Date: 11/20/18 15:08
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: EL-SD45-3632

BAB Wrote:
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> Thought they were AAR style trucks not Alco.

Correct, AAR style trucks. Everyone thinks they are Alco just because they are under the units. 



Date: 11/20/18 17:04
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: gonx

Wasn't the #254 recently acquired by the W&LE?



Date: 11/20/18 18:14
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: NSDash9

gonx Wrote:
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> Wasn't the #254 recently acquired by the W&LE?

Yes, former NS/SOU GP38-2 #5123, which was acquired via auction in August 2017 and put into service by the W&LE in March of this year.


Chris Toth
NSDash9.com



Date: 11/21/18 02:08
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: funnelfan

Reports now say the three Geeps were part of a remote set that ran away and ran into a train waiting at the limits of the remote zone using the single SD40. Impact speed was a estimated 49mph.

http://fredstuckmann.rrpicturearchives.net/archivethumbs.aspx?id=129913&fbclid=IwAR0-IHEBzgoCu24VO1K1wIWyYpv0qntJ5lQCOu3rnPwKUspCNEjiSt3YxQ0

Ted Curphey
Cheney, WA



Date: 11/21/18 04:53
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: Bunny218

Not sure where any idea of a tree unit train originated, but it was two trains with two units each. The train with the two geeps was the one operating in remote.



Date: 11/23/18 08:17
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: NYC6001

That's ugly. Good thing no injuries. 

Sometimes an RCO crew fails to understand the relationship between weight/speed/operative brakes, and if the switching lead is on a grade, runaways can occur. Hopefully that was not the case here, but I have seen it happen where I work.



Date: 11/23/18 11:10
Re: W&LE Head-On Collision
Author: Lackawanna484

NYC6001 Wrote:
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> That's ugly. Good thing no injuries. 
>
> Sometimes an RCO crew fails to understand the
> relationship between weight/speed/operative
> brakes, and if the switching lead is on a grade,
> runaways can occur.
Hopefully that was not the
> case here, but I have seen it happen where I work.

That's a great point. 

Isn't the remote unit supposed to go into emergency if it leaves the control range of the belt pack?



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