Eastern Railroad Discussion > Question About Diamonds On NS Detroit to Kansas City and St Louis

Good Evening:

On the NS (former Wabash) between Detroit and Kansas City, where are diamonds located with other railroads and which road has control? How about between Decatur, IL and St Louis and St Louis to Moberly, MO?

Thank you in advance.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/19 18:41 by PRR_4859.

I'm going to follow the Wabash main from the Boat Yard, so we'll start with the diamonds at Delray, which CSX controls; the NS ex-WAB actually runs on CSX track through the plant.

Ecorse Jct. (crossing ex-NYC Junction Yard Runner), controlled by NS.

Oakwood Jct (CN/GTW/DT&I) controlled by NS.

Romulus, and based on who usually gets priority there, controlled by CSX, although it might be first-come-first-served with CSX's dispatchers being more aggressive.

Milan, Mich., with the Ann Arbor, controlled by NS.

Adrian, Mich., with the Adrian & Blissfield, controlled by NS.

Butler, Ind., NS-Wabash vs NS-Conrail/NYC, controlled by NS-Conrail/NYC.

St. Joe, Ind., controlled by CSX (ex-B&O).

East Wayne, Ind., NS-Wabash vs NS-NKP, both part of Lake Division.

Fort Wayne/MIKE, Ind., (ex-WAB vs CF&E), probably controlled by Lake Division.

Clymers, Ind., (Winamac Southern?) controlled by NS.

Danville, IL  (ex-WAB vs CSX ex-C&EI), unsure who controls.

I might have missed one, and I'll leave farther west to others, but I know there's also a diamond at Hannibal, MO where the ex-WAB crosses the BNSF ex-CB&Q along the MIssissippi (I have no idea what there is in Decatur or Springfield).

 



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/19 07:28 by toledopatch.

Lafayette, IN;  crosses former NYC/NKP (now Kankakee, Beaverville & Southern to the west, and NS to the east).  No diamonds anymore, just crossovers.  NS controls Lafayette Jct.
    (Crosses over CSX ex-Monon further south.)

Decatur -Moberly
Decatur (WABIC) NS-CN, previously Wabash-IC hence the name

Springfield (Starnes) NS-CN , previously IC,Wabash, IT

Jacksonville BNSF-NS , previously CB&Q, Wabash

Hannibal right at the west edge of the Mississippi River bridge NS crosses BNSF before entering a tunnel

Decatur - St. Louis line
Litchfield NS-BNSF
Mitchell NS-UP and others ??

I don’t know who has the control on any of these



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/19 19:54 by Spoony81.

Spoony81 Wrote:
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> Decatur -Moberly
> Decatur (WABIC) NS-CN, previously Wabash-IC hence
> the name

*NS control
>
> Springfield (Starnes) NS-CN , previously
> IC,Wabash, IT

* NS control

I&M Springfield (C&IM)

*I&M control
>


> Jacksonville BNSF-NS , previously CB&Q, Wabash
>

*NS control

> Hannibal right at the west edge of the Mississippi
> River bridge NS crosses BNSF before entering a
> tunnel

* NS control by drawbridge operator
>
> Decatur - St. Louis line
> Litchfield NS-BNSF

*NS control

> Mitchell NS-UP and others ??

*UP control
>
> I don’t know who has the control on any of these

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Thank you all very much.

East of Decatur a ways, there's one at Tolono, IL. Crosses the CN. (I believe it may be CN control)
   -Caleb

mtzctrain Wrote:
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> East of Decatur a ways, there's one at Tolono, IL.
> Crosses the CN. (I believe it may be CN control)
>    -Caleb

You may be right about that, but last July on a visit to Tolono I observed a northbound stack train train sitting just south of the northbound signal on the IC. Three NS trains came through before the northbound left. Just made me think that NS has control of that junction.

Kim Heusel

mtzctrain Wrote:
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> East of Decatur a ways, there's one at Tolono, IL.
> Crosses the CN. (I believe it may be CN control)
>    -Caleb

CN controls, but has the option to turn over control to the NS when traffic is light on the CN side.

What about Birmingham Jct near Kansas City.....a crossing that was once the CNW/Wabash located in Birmingham, MO?

Marty Harrison
Knob Noster, MO

livesteamer Wrote:
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> What about Birmingham Jct near Kansas City.....a
> crossing that was once the CNW/Wabash located in
> Birmingham, MO?

If you know it's there....

toledopatch Wrote:
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> livesteamer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What about Birmingham Jct near Kansas
> City.....a
> > crossing that was once the CNW/Wabash located
> in
> > Birmingham, MO?
>
> If you know it's there....

NS crossing with CP/UP at Birmingham controlled by NS "KN" Operator in their North KC Yard.

MILW86A

MILW86A Wrote:
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> toledopatch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > livesteamer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What about Birmingham Jct near Kansas
> > City.....a
> > > crossing that was once the CNW/Wabash located
> > in
> > > Birmingham, MO?
> >
> > If you know it's there....
>
> NS crossing with CP/UP at Birmingham controlled by
> NS "KN" Operator in their North KC Yard.
>
> MILW86A

KN Operator is no longer there. Now controlled by NS KC dispatcher.

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