Eastern Railroad Discussion > Canadian Pacific 7000 series SD70ACU

Hi all. Has anyone managed to get a picture of a finished CP SD70ACU (Progress Rail rebuild of a SD90MAC/SD9043MAC) as yet?

If there being done at Progress Rail, I doubt they've even been started on yet!

Txtrainman60 Wrote:
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> If there being done at Progress Rail, I doubt
> they've even been started on yet!

Program is well underway, first units should be completed very soon.

According to Canadian Railway Observations the first units were released a month ago and sent to McCook Illinois (former EMD Facility) for some testing

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Smithy81a Wrote:
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> According to Canadian Railway Observations the
> first units were released a month ago and sent to
> McCook Illinois (former EMD Facility) for some
> testing
>
> Posted from iPhone

None have been released from Mayfield.

Ah I see, thanks. That makes sense as to why there are no photos out there. May I ask you source?

This is one of the main reasons PROGRESS RAIL is #2 in sales, they build/rebuild locomotives so damn slow. GE has built and sold a 1000 ET44'S and EMD has built just 135 SD70ACE-T4'S. Maybe caterpillar is trying to kill off the division. Wish I could buy EMD.

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The-late-EMD Wrote:
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> This is one of the main reasons PROGRESS RAIL is
> #2 in sales, they build/rebuild locomotives so
> damn slow. GE has built and sold a 1000 ET44'S and
> EMD has built just 135 SD70ACE-T4'S. Maybe
> caterpillar is trying to kill off the division.
> Wish I could buy EMD.
>
> Posted from Android

Bit of an apples and oranges comparison when measuring rebuild programs to new construction!

Still, the vast majority of the GE Tier 4 sales were early. In fact, not one new Tier 4 "GE" is on order from BNSF,CP, CSX, NS or UP. They aren't setting the world on fire either.

I will grant you that Caterpillar could do better than placing EMD under the watch of that hillbilly that "runs" Progress Rail.

You are forgetting the KCS and CN T4T units just produced in the past few months, plus there are some T4T units on order for BNSF.

DC

The-late-EMD Wrote:
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> This is one of the main reasons PROGRESS RAIL is
> #2 in sales, they build/rebuild locomotives so
> damn slow. GE has built and sold a 1000 ET44'S and
> EMD has built just 135 SD70ACE-T4'S. Maybe
> caterpillar is trying to kill off the division.
> Wish I could buy EMD.
>
> Posted from Android

I doubt it’s anything to do with speed. Remember the CP units have been stored out in the open for years and will need a lot more work than the GE conversions.
As for new units. EMD was late to the party with their offering and supposedly UP slowed the deliveries for EMD/PR to work out the bugs
GE was well ahead getting their product ready and for awhile was the only offering in town.
I like EMD/PR but there’s no denying GE has been king. Railroads would not buy them if they were useless

(Forgive I know this is ground that has been covered and will be covered a 1000 times over)

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Smithy81a Wrote:
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> The-late-EMD Wrote:
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> > This is one of the main reasons PROGRESS RAIL
> is
> > #2 in sales, they build/rebuild locomotives so
> > damn slow. GE has built and sold a 1000 ET44'S
> and
> > EMD has built just 135 SD70ACE-T4'S. Maybe
> > caterpillar is trying to kill off the division.
>
> > Wish I could buy EMD.
> >
> > Posted from Android
> Good point on the CPs being stored so long but....sadly, EMD seems to be late at everything these days! Had NS been willing to do them, I'm sure a few would even be on the road by now!
> I doubt it’s anything to do with speed. Remember
> the CP units have been stored out in the open for
> years and will need a lot more work than the GE
> conversions.
> As for new units. EMD was late to the party with
> their offering and supposedly UP slowed the
> deliveries for EMD/PR to work out the bugs
> GE was well ahead getting their product ready and
> for awhile was the only offering in town.
> I like EMD/PR but there’s no denying GE has been
> king. Railroads would not buy them if they were
> useless
>
> (Forgive I know this is ground that has been
> covered and will be covered a 1000 times over)
>
> Posted from iPhone

> > Good point on the CPs being stored so long
> but....sadly, EMD seems to be late at everything
> these days! Had NS been willing to do them, I'm
> sure a few would even be on the road by now!

Possibly but again remember the CP units are getting a full rebuild. The NS units where not. Only some of the NS units had engine overhauls and they only got rebuilt trucks if required (according to Altoona Works page)