Eastern Railroad Discussion > Norfolk Southern derailment Sandusky, Ohio

Norfolk Southern just derailed a train at Columbus Ave in Sandusky. Anybody know more than that about it? Tank cars are off the overpass onto the street.

Steve

Correct. Major derailment

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Eastbound? Westbound? Unit train or mixed cargo?
 

Tank cars of wax off the overpass into the street. No injuries.
https://sanduskyregister.com/news/411879/train-derails-at-columbus-ave-overpass/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/22 14:32 by JPB.

310, appeared to be crossing over at CP240. Not a big train by current standards.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/22 16:32 by halfmoonharold.

Trolleysteve Wrote:
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> Eastbound? Westbound? Unit train or mixed cargo?
>  
Eastbound, mixed.

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> https://sanduskyregister.com/news/411879/train-derails-at-columbus-ave-overpass/

"The incident occurred at about 4:20 p.m. when a conductor aboard a Norfolk and Southern train traveling east reported engine issues, which caused the derailment at the Columbus Avenue overpass."

Engine issues causing the derailment?

"Norfolk and Southern"

Right. Got it. At least we don't have the conductor was driving the train.

Is this on the Chicago line ?

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joemvcnj Wrote:
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> "Norfolk and Southern"
>
> Right. Got it. At least we don't have the
> conductor was driving the train.
>
> Is this on the Chicago line ?
>
> Posted from Android

This is on the Chicago Line and about a mile and a half east of the Amtrak Station at CD 241.6.

From what I've been hearing the train 310 was crossing over and derailed, taking the west end crossovers and both mains within the crossovers with it. The fluid out of the tankers is confirmed as paraffin wax, so there is no immediate threat to life or property as of yet.

Michael Fair
Royal Oak, MI

If there was a DPU, that might have something to do with it.

justalurker66 Wrote:
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> >
> https://sanduskyregister.com/news/411879/train-der
> ails-at-columbus-ave-overpass/
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> "The incident occurred at about 4:20 p.m. when a
> conductor aboard a Norfolk and Southern train
> traveling east reported engine issues, which
> caused the derailment at the Columbus Avenue
> overpass."
>
> Engine issues causing the derailment?

Amtrak web site say 29/30/ 48/49 are bypassing Sandusky, Ohio station. Here is your chance to get some rare mileage pictures of Amtrak in Bellevue. Actually anywhere along the former WLE/NKP lines from Oak Harbor to Vermillion. 



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Trains started rolling through Sandusky late Sunday/ early Monday. Still lots of cleanup to do in the area.

Any official word on the cause of derailment?

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Dang. Thankfully, no one was on the roadway near the overpass in harm's way.

Victor B.

wabash2800 Wrote:
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> Dang. Thankfully, no one was on the roadway near
> the overpass in harm's way.
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> Victor B.

LOTS of people walk/run the sidewalks under the tracks, and the street is busy. VERY lucky.

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mdogg Wrote:
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> Trains started rolling through Sandusky late
> Sunday/ early Monday. Still lots of cleanup to do
> in the area.
>
> Any official word on the cause of derailment?
>
> Posted from Android

Tried to get that from an NS track worker and was told not at liberty to discuss that. He did let it slip they knew what actually caused it.

Michael Fair
Royal Oak, MI

My understanding is that the derailment has been attributed to a locked axle on the HZRX 187. If any of the waybilled locomotives in the consist were the cause, I'm sure NS will continue to make the process of moving locomoitves more difficult. They likely won't consider that the three units out of Perry, Ohio went a couple of hundered miles out of the way to Cleveland via Elkhart.
 

ARandall70 Wrote:
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> My understanding is that the derailment has been
> attributed to a locked axle on the HZRX 187. If
> any of the waybilled locomotives in the consist
> were the cause, I'm sure NS will continue to make
> the process of moving locomoitves more difficult.
> They likely won't consider that the three units
> out of Perry, Ohio went a couple of hundered miles
> out of the way to Cleveland via Elkhart.
>  

Thanks. How does a locked axle cause a derailment?

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When the axle locks up the wheels stop rolling and begin to slide. As the wheel slides further the flat spot will grow and it is common for sliding wheels to derail on switches. The 310 derailment occured during a crossover move. 

In all of the photos I've seen, I have yet to see one where the locomotives appear to be derailed or where crews were swapping out an axle.